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Spacey Orange
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Registered: Jul 2004
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Confused What separates a GOOD liveset from a BAD liveset?

When I listen to a live set, this is what i take into account.

1. Beatmatching
2. Melody/Harmony matching (or no obvious clashes)
3. Progression of the BPMs in tracks (no dramatic rises or falls in bpms).
4. Track choice (whether they seem to fit with the other tracks' genre)

Am I missing anything?

I'm guessing the same principles apply in any genre of edm. I know that this is basic, but often i witness bitter disagreements over DJ [insert any name] and I'm not sure if the disagreement is over the edm genre or the DJ's skills.

Last edited by Spacey Orange on Jan-31-2005 at 00:20

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Philby
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

yes you are missing:
voiceover by pete tong saying 'paul oakenfold liiive from gatecrasher, at lotharton hall' and subsequent roar of crowd.


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AlphaStarred
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Location: Brooklyn, NY

some live sets contain those roaring crowds throughout the entire set..that exasperates me

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Ory
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Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Philby
yes you are missing:
voiceover by pete tong saying 'paul oakenfold liiive from gatecrasher, at lotharton hall' and subsequent roar of crowd.




Yes, please.


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Spacey Orange
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: California

i actually wasn't referring tot the actuial recording of the liveset (whether its clean or there are crowds), but the the liveset itself (as in the dj's skills by mixing live - you know like at an event or a radio or whatever).

for instance i've seen TA bash tiesto because of his 'trainwecks'. is it because he f'ed up a beatmatch or what?

another example. right now i'm listening to AVB sensation white 2003 and at about 30 he transitions but it doesn't sound right because the melodies are off.

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Philby
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
some live sets contain those roaring crowds throughout the entire set..that exasperates me




roaring crowd = teh winnar!!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Philby


roaring crowd = teh winnar!!!


not when the music gets muffled and overshadowed by their shouts and whistles!

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Philby
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Registered: Dec 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
not when the music gets muffled and overshadowed by their shouts and whistles!


bah it all adds atmosphere!


well in reference to the original questions, obviously if a set isnt beatmatched and stuff then its not going to be as good but if its only one or two and the rest of it sounds great then you should be able to let it slide


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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasilia, Brazil
Re: What separates a GOOD liveset from a BAD liveset?

quote:
Originally posted by Spacey Orange
1. Beatmatching (if see Fatboy slim live, you won't think beatmatching is necessary for a good set )
2. Melody/Harmony matching (or no obvious clashes)
3. Progression of the BPMs in tracks (no dramatic rises or falls in bpms) (once again, if you see Fatboy slim live, you won't think this is necessary for a good set either )
4. Track choice (whether they seem to fit with the other tracks' genre)
5. No whistles


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