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jonze
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It's fun to shoot some people

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/02/03/ge...hoot/index.html

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A three-star Marine general who said it was "fun to shoot some people" should have chosen his words more carefully, the Marine Corps commandant said Thursday.

Lt. Gen. James Mattis, who commanded Marine expeditions in Afghanistan and Iraq, made the comments Tuesday during a panel discussion in San Diego, California.

"Actually it's quite fun to fight them, you know. It's a hell of a hoot," Mattis said, prompting laughter from some military members in the audience. "It's fun to shoot some people. I'll be right up there with you. I like brawling.

"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."

Mattis' press office has not yet responded to a request to answer questions about his comments.

However, the Marine commandant, Gen. Michael Hagee, defended Mattis, calling him "one of this country's bravest and most experienced military leaders."

"While I understand that some people may take issue with the comments made by him, I also know he intended to reflect the unfortunate and harsh realities of war," he said in a written statement. "Lt. Gen. Mattis often speaks with a great deal of candor."

Hagee said he had counseled Mattis regarding the remarks and that Mattis "agrees he should have chosen his words more carefully."

"Throughout our history, Marines have given their lives in the defense of this nation and human rights around the globe," Hagee's statement read. "When necessary, this commitment helps to provide us the fortitude to take the lives of those who oppress others or threaten this nation's security. This is not something we relish, yet we accept it as a reality in our profession of arms."

"Lt. Gen. Mattis is a superb leader and one of the Corps' most courageous and experienced warriors," Hagee wrote. "I remain confident that he will continue to serve this nation with dedication and distinction."

Added Marine Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, "The last three times that that general has been in combat, when he was leading Marines in Afghanistan and the two times that he led his division in Iraq, his actions and those of his troops clearly show that he understands the value of proper leadership and the value of human life."

Pace spoke Thursday during a Pentagon briefing. He declined to comment directly on Mattis' comments.

Early in his career, Mattis served as a rifle and weapons platoon commander as a lieutenant and later a captain. He also commanded assault battalions in Operation Desert Storm and Desert Shield. He was the commander of the 1st Marine Division for the initial attack on Iraq.

San Diego television station KNSD, which calls itself NBC 7/39, captured Mattis' Tuesday comments on video and interviewed a retired military man afterward who said the general's remarks were "flippant."

"I was a little surprised," said retired Vice Adm. Edward H. Martin. "I don't think any of us who have ever fought in wars liked to kill anybody."

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Ricky Tan
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Seems like a Real American Hero

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
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yea I read that.


It quite interesting how people deal with teh realities of war. I always wanted to look at how people justified their violent behavior in wars. Usually its that they strip the other of human status.....



but I am not surprised at what he said.

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Spartan
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a buddy of mine came back from Iraq with three kills under his belt, and he said shooting at people was by far the worst moments of his life.

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R.j.
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: L, TX, USA

my brother in law's friend showed me a video that his friend (that it in IRAQ fighting) gave him. Boy, it seems they all like to kill people... there was this one part where there were abunch of IRAQI's, for some reason, in a group (maybe 12 - 15)... anywho, they dropped a some sort of semi?-bomb on them, and all you could see heads, arms, legs, and just all sorts of body parts fly all over the place... the soldiers reactions:

"WHOOAAAAA"
"DO IT AGAIN!"
"MY TURN MY TURN"
"LET ME KILL THEM, CMON!!! PLEASE MAN, LET ME DO THEM"

another part of the video was when they were snipering some IRAQI's and all you hear is this going "WHOOO, MOTHER******, EAT THAT SHIT, HAHAHAHAHAH" and just bunch of blood and shooting...


kinda freaked me out, but I guess that kind of behavior over there is common... I mean c'mon watch the movie PLATOON, CASUALTIES OF WAR, HAMBURGER HILL AND SO ON... kind of the same behavior


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Orbax
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^^ hahaha

seriously though. Fuck anyone who bitches about him. Hes been putting his ass on the line for 20 years. You want him to cry? would that make you feel better? Fuck you. Hes dealing with it, and hes the one who actually had to kill them. Maybe you should try getting over yourselves.

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Just like yalls columbine folks.

That thurr kids went through years of tormenting. If shootin up a coupla dem classmates is how he deals with it, so be it.

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to be honest...patton said the same kind of shit...and he's probably considered one of the greatest generals in US history...

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30+ years actually.


You don't get General, especially in the Marine Corps (even looked at for it) until year 18. He is a Lt. General.


I want a General above me that is for the fight,and not some pussified PC mother******.

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Orbital32
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LOL. i think it's far easier to say "OHHH that's bad" when you are not there. They shoot when they are getting fired upon, or their life is in danger. FUCK...I'll admit it, i'll be more then happy if i shot some ****** that was pointing an RPG or an AK series rifle at me.

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smokeape
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Registered: Jul 2003
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Oops, what a faux pas! Marines are not supposed to admit they like killing people. Too bad they got it on tape. Interview 90% of the Army Infantry and you'll get the same response.


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