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craig800
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Location: Victoria, Australia
Dunno who wants to help?

i began making this song this morning and have hit a dead end with the percussion, can anyone give me some tips? Also tell me what you think of it so far

its sort of inspired by the stuff that mathew adams makes

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thanks in advance!


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first, what I think of the track: Professional chords, however cheesy they may be to some people. It's one of those "Life goes on" tracks :P The synth sounds a little (and by that i mean a lot) softwarish and undefined. Where's the bass(line)? Where's the KICK? I hear a metronome clicking :P Sounds like made it in headphones!

Percussion wise, you need very reverbed stuff. And reverb what you already have a lot more... get that stereo width; this kind of track lives off of reverb. (especially that lead.. it doesn't decay enough). Of course you're going to want hats... try not to just do kick TSS kick TSS kick TSS kick TSS, that's just going to make it even more airy-fairy. Try to get musical with the hats. Try loading 5-10 different hat samples up and using different combinations of each with different delays. Important thing: get a NICE, treblish, juicy, cymbal reverse. Delay it, reverb it... it will make everything floaty even more. Stay away from bongos/congas/ethnic/weirdpercs/etc.. Put the emphasis on the clap and hats. I would actually get a nice, reverby clap and just lay it on simply like any other 4/4 track. There's really no alternative in my mind. Tracks like this lay within the cycles of things, and the kick kiclap kick kiclap... etc. pattern just keeps cycling over and over like you want this track to be.

Speaking about the lead, you need to boost the hi eq some.

another thing about the lead: the pattern it repeats every bar contradicts the flow of the song... it's stutterish by it's skipping. Instead of the pattern playing, you might try the basic skipped triplet pattern

1--1--1-1--1--1, where each space is a sixteenth note. or you could switch to completely triplets and it'd float over in a different way.

One more thing to add (there are more, but I need to sleep and this is the last thing im mentioning :P): A simple wind sweep. Match it up with the cutoff automation on the lead... I love the drippy thing you've got going at the beginning - maybe you could complement with something? Some high frequency "twinkling" fx, maybe?

At the beginning, when you have the piano playing it's little part, think of that as the basis to the piano part, not the whole thing itself. Fill in those spaces with notes an octave down, and I promise everything will fly over like you want

Hope this helps some! I may not be a big fan of this style of trance (in fact i don't think it's trance.. just happy dancey), but you're going for something emotional, and I respect that

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Darkness_Hero
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: MEXICO

i agree whit the other guy,where are the claps?hats?DRUMS!!mastering is absolutly nice,melody is nice too,lets see how you keep improving the track the next days =)


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craig800
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thanks that was just the advice i was looking for!


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