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djbruuen
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Milton
Do VST's have Aftertouch???

do they?? i'm just using an array of vst's on my m-audio radium keyboard, and can't get aftertouch...do vst's not have this feature? or am i not activating something i should? thanks

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meneedit
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whats aftertouch?

If it's what i'm thinking it is, then I would like to know where to get some VSTS that can do that as well.

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DJ-Igloo
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Yes alot of vstis do ones such as V - Station


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meneedit
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yeah... thats great care to explain what aftertouch is?

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DJ-Igloo
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If I'm correct not 100% positive but after touch is like adding vibrato to a note.

Aftertouch:
A means of generating a control signal based on how much pressure is applied to the keys of a MIDI keyboard. Most instruments that support this do not have independent pressure sensing for all keys, but rather detect the overall pressure by means of a sensing strip running beneath the keys. Aftertouch may be used to control such functions as vibrato depth, filter brightness, loudness and so on


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fr0st
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Aftertouch is when you press the key down... Then if you press a little harder it triggers the after touch.... Very good for expressive sounds... I think mr igloo has it confused with velocity.....


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meneedit
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damn guys i was way off. I thought it was one of those totally humanised things where once you let go of the key it has its own LFO or fade or pitch bend..

sort of like one of those Mr.Oizo songs where it sounds like something is pitch bending after the bass and then it gets pushed back up when the bass comes back

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cheesy
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Maybe because the Radium doesn't have aftertouch...


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djbruuen
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^ are you saying that as a fact or a possibility??? because i don't even know...i'll look into that, but fuck, i'll be dissappointed i got this opposed to the edirol if thats the case.

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Alexan
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On the Radium the keys are touch sensitive (Of course) but you can't set a velocity curve and it doesn't have aftertouch.

More info


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xmotleyx
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not sure if this helps (because i am very new to this) but this is taken from my music creation guide:

aftertouch

Most of the serious controller keyboards include a controller known as aftertouch, which uses a pressure-sensitive strip under the keyboard to sense how hard you press down on the keys after the initial velocity has been read and converts this to MIDI data. Aftertouch sends out lots of MIDI data, so it’s best to switch it off if you don’t want to use it. If you do use it, however, it can be used to control various aspects of musical expression, such as brightness, loudness and vibrato depth.

Conventional aftertouch affects all of the notes that are playing at one time, not just the one you’re pressing down, although a few specialised instruments feature polyphonic aftertouch, where the data sent applies only to the note being pressed. Polyphonic aftertouch (sometimes referred to as key or channel aftertouch) can generate a huge amount of MIDI data, and so it must be used with care.

Another feature found only on specialist keyboards is release velocity. All velocity-sensitive instruments generate MIDI note velocity, depending on how quickly you push down the keys, but on an instrument with release velocity, additional information is generated depending on how quickly you release the keys. Very few keyboards offer this facility, however, and even fewer musicians know how to use it creatively!

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Diginerd
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Registered: Jan 2005
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slight correction:-

Key Aftertouch = Poly aftertouch
Channel Pressure = straightforwards aftertouch (one controller for the channel)

Ensoniq were practically the only mass produced instruments with poly aftertouch. The Prophet T8 had it to (and from there the Synclavier, which had the same keyboard) as do some more obscure instruments.

Aftetouch is just the name for controller #2 though, so you can simply draw it in your favorite sequencer. What it does depends on what is mapped to that controller.

Typically it was used to add vibrato, though another common trick was to control filter cutoff.

It's more of a performance controller, much akin to the maligned breath controller (Yamaha BC1 is not a thing of beauty). The breath controller whilst fine in your own studio makes you look like an idiot on stage!

Personally I'm a big fan of Ribbon controllers, and more recently the D-Beam

Anyway, I digress. Flat Beat was (from memory) a korg MS-20 having it's LFO rate knob played with. Matron.

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