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4am
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Need help using samples

Hi guys.

I am new to using samples. I have always just used synthesizers. I bought a nice CD, Ueberschall Techno Trance Essentials...

I use FL Studio 5 and the problem I'm having is that I want to make a sample sustain until I stop playing the note or to stop playing the note when I let up on a key if the sample originally plays longer than I hold down the note.

Please explain how I can make a sample play for a shorter or longer amount of time depending on how long I hold down a key on my MIDI keyboard...

Do I need a special VST for this?

Please provide newbie instructions. I've never used samples like this before.

Thank you!

-Heather

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TXHARP
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Michigan, USA

You need to establish a loop point, or more specifically a zero-crossing loop point to eliminate nasty clicks, via an audio editor for each applicable sample. I general use Sound Forge 7 or the TWE software that came with my Motif ES6 to perform the aforementioned function. However, there are possibly some freebie audio editors that can setup zero-crossing loop points as well.

The Sampling Part 3 tutorial on the following website link will explain the concept behind looping at the zero-crossing point:

Sample Craze Tutorials

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4am
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Thanks, man...

Is it difficult using Sound Forge to set the loop points? I'm wondering how time-consuming it will be to set loop-points on the samples I want to use... I wonder if I should just stick to synths.

Thanks,
Heather

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Ah! I found a great tutorial on that same site. It deals specifically with soundforge. Cool! I can do this. Thanks.

http://www.samplecraze.com/audio-tu.../soundforge.htm

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TXHARP
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quote:
Originally posted by 4am
Is it difficult using Sound Forge to set the loop points? I'm wondering how time-consuming it will be to set loop-points on the samples I want to use... I wonder if I should just stick to synths.


Sound Forge has tools to simplify the process. However, Sound Forge is a rather expensive to only use it for setting loop points.

Below is a free software editor you may want to give a try:

Audacity

Other TA members may be able to provide feedback regarding Audacity. I have never used it.

In regards to sticking with synths, it's a matter of preference. In the early to mid 90's, most of the music written by me and my friends were done on Akai, E-MU and Roland samplers and various hardware sequencers. This methodology has carried over into the present. I have come to love the use of sampled instruments over the years. My Motif ES6 is always stocked with at least 200 instrument samples, which I tend to update every 6 months.

Setting up loop points for WAV and AIFF files can become irritating and time consuming. To eliminate this problem, I purchase sample CDs in Akai format.

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MessiahProject
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Sorry for butting in on this thread, but while we are on the subject of samples - if I load a 'stab' sample into Kontact say, when you map it over the keys - the higher you go it changes the pitch but also speeds up the sample, and the lower you go it obviously slows it down. Is it possible to alter the pitch of the sample without it speeding up - just like playing any other note on a synth?

MP

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In FL Studio 5 it is... What sequencer are you using? The feature you're looking for is called 'resampling' - the host must support timestretching.

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