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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
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Read This! Documents show FBI helped Saudis depart after 9/11

Not that we didn't hear about this already but now it seems much more official...interesting developments indeed.

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Documents show FBI helped Saudis depart after 9/11 attacks: New York Times

Sun Mar 27, 2:13 PM ET

Politics - AFP

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The FBI (news - web sites) played an active role in arranging chartered flights for dozens of well-connected Saudi nationals -- including relatives of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) -- after the 9/11 terror attacks.

The New York Times reported that the documents show Federal Bureau of Investigation agents gave personal airport escorts to two prominent Saudi families who fled the United States, while several other Saudis were allowed to leave the country without first being interviewed, citing newly-released US government records.

The Saudi families, in Los Angeles and Orlando, had requested the FBI escorts out of concern for their personal safety in the wake of the attacks.

The documents were obtained through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the Justice Department (news - web sites) by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, which provided copies to the Times.

FBI officials contacted by the daily reacted angrily to the allegation of preferential treatment for the Saudis.

One official, speaking on condition of anonymity, when queried by the Times about the airport escorts said "we'd do that for anybody if they felt they were threatened -- we wouldn't characterize that as special treatment."

The Saudis' chartered flights -- arranged in the days after the September 11, 2001 terror attacks when most aircraft were still grounded -- long have been a topic of allegations related to close family ties and associates of US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) and the Saudi royal family.

The charges received their most prominent airing last year by the filmmaker Michael Moore, in his "Fahrenheit 9/11" documentary.

White House officials have strongly denied any special treatment for the Saudis.


Source: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...usattackssaudis


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"White House officials have strongly denied any special treatment for the Saudis."


How is flying the Saudis out after 9/11 NOT special treatment?? Like the FBI agent in Farenheit 911 said that's like a criminal killing someone and allowing the witnesses or relatives of that person who may be questioned or asked about the murder to be flown out of the country or state. That makes NO sense.


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such big news only on yahoo


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karim
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Yahoo picks up their news from various news wires like the Associated Press and Reuters. This story is from the french press.


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starsearcher
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I think they picked this one up from the NY Times...

"The New York Times reported that..." (2nd paragraph)


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quote:
Documents show FBI helped Saudis depart after 9/11 attacks: New York Times

Sun Mar 27, 2:13 PM ET

Politics - AFP

WASHINGTON (AFP)


You're right, it even says in the headline. When I read an article, I usually go straight for the bolded parts in the quote above, and AFP means Agence France Presse AFP


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quote:
Originally posted by karim
and AFP means Agence France Presse AFP


Oh didn't even know that...I learn something new every day TOTA is a good learning environment


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usa is loosing the war in iraq and the war on terror.

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usa is loosing the war in iraq and the war on terror.


Not according to the Iraqi people.
Maybe you should get some information from the actual people involved than believing the mutton being force fed by the media...
I've talked to several people that have friends stationed in Iraq and Afganistan and the stories they tell are nothing like the medias'.


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Michael Moore also used this story for Fahrenheit 9/11.

Here's one guy's rebuttal.
http://www.davekopel.org/Terror/Fif...m_United_States

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Saudi Departures from United States

Deceits 11-14

Moore is guilty of a classic game of saying one thing and implying another when he describes how members of the Saudi elite were flown out of the United States shortly after 9/11.

If you listen only to what Moore says during this segment of the movie—and take careful notes in the dark—you’ll find he’s got his facts right. He and others in the film state that 142 Saudis, including 24 members of the bin Laden family, were allowed to leave the country after Sept. 13.

The date—Sept. 13—is crucial because that is when a national ban on air traffic, for security purposes, was eased

But nonetheless, many viewers will leave the movie theater with the impression that the Saudis, thanks to special treatment from the White House, were permitted to fly away when all other planes were still grounded. This false impression is created by Moore’s failure, when mentioning Sept. 13, to emphasize that the ban on flights had been eased by then. The false impression is further pushed when Moore shows the singer Ricky Martin walking around an airport and says, "Not even Ricky Martin would fly. But really, who wanted to fly? No one. Except the bin Ladens."

But the movie fails to mention that the FBI interviewed about 30 of the Saudis before they left. And the independent 9/11 commission has reported that "each of the flights we have studied was investigated by the FBI and dealt with in a professional manner prior to its departure."

The rest of the explanation is quite interesting and worth a read.


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Ok so, either they were interviewed by the Fbi/cops and then left or they were not and just flew out without being interviewed. Which is it?


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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Not according to the Iraqi people.
Maybe you should get some information from the actual people involved than believing the mutton being force fed by the media...
I've talked to several people that have friends stationed in Iraq and Afganistan and the stories they tell are nothing like the medias'.



Yes the Iraqi's love it there, shit blowing up everyday,no electricity and water,and having American forces running their country I mean who wouldnt be happy?


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