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Slyde
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit
ETN.fm -- Donations No Longer Appreciated

I have always been a fan of www.etn.fm, even back when part of it was trancesphere.com. The music has always been great, and the community was even better.

However, as of late, by just sitting idle in #etn on irc.mixxnet.net, I have noticed the station owner, 'E-vangelist', taking alot of critques and criticism of the commonly referred to 'his' station, very personally. When someone asks of if they are going to offer different types of shows, more residents, or anything else related to general airplay of ETN, the common reaction seems to be to either 'stop listening' or his personal favorite 'stfu'.

While this has always been ignorable at best, his recent outburt and complete lack of respect for me, a paying patron, was the proverbial tip of the iceberg. Below, I have snipped a piece from an IRC log (the entire log can be found here: http://psytrip.org/etn.txt

18:13 Slyde> wow
18:13 Slyde> you guys take any type of critique way to damn seriously
18:14 Slyde> the kid has an opinion
18:14 Slyde> its not 'wrong
18:15 @E-vangelist> slyde, stfu what we're talking about has nothing to do with opinion
18:16 Slyde> E-vangelist: its not a good idea to tell your patrons, that have donated (and are willing to donate in the future) to stfu.
18:16 @E-vangelist> it's an even worse idea to stick your nose in conversations it dosen't belong in and then cop attitude with the people in charge of the channel
18:17 Slyde> E-vangelist: if it is a private conversation, i suggest taking it to a PM.
18:17 @E-vangelist> I'll tell whoever I want to shut the fuck up, and while I appreciate your donation, you didn't buy shares in the company and you have zero right to tell me how to run things
18:17 Slyde> E-vangelist: i have EVERY right to tell you what i feel like. if you don't need donations, i suggest taking the link off the main page.
18:18 @E-vangelist> you're an idiot
18:18 Slyde> thank you.
18:18 Slyde> i can tell you are a mature owner of a internet radio station.
18:18 Slyde> and this log will be posted.
18:18 Slyde> thank you.
18:18 @E-vangelist> are you really that stupid?
18:18 @E-vangelist> go right ahead
18:18 @E-vangelist> just make sure you include all the context
18:19 Slyde> E-vangelist: i will.
18:20 @E-vangelist> I'm still not understanding how you donating gives you any right to tell me how to run my station, chat room, or anything else
18:22 Slyde> E-vangelist: where did i tell you how to run your station
18:22 Slyde> ?
18:22 @E-vangelist> haha
18:22 @E-vangelist> E-vangelist: its not a good idea to tell your patrons, that have donated (and are willing
18:22 @E-vangelist> to donate in the future) to stfu.
18:22 Slyde> E-vangelist: is that telling you how to run your station?
18:23 Slyde> E-vangelist: so instead of being mature about it, like all constructive criticism that you receive in this channel, you take it personally as an attack?
18:23 @E-vangelist> uhm.. yes?
18:24 Slyde> E-vangelist: i never implied that you were doing a bad job running your channel. i never implied anything about the technical aspects of etn. i just made a suggestion, that if you would like to continue to receive donations in the future, its in your best interest not to 'attack' patrons.
18:24 Slyde> however, you took that on a sour note somehow


18:25 @E-vangelist> 99% of my "patrons" don't donate anyway you're awfully hung up on this donations thing... I don't really give a fuck


18:25 Slyde> E-vangelist:
18:25 Slyde> k
18:25 Slyde> thanks. good luck in the future.
18:25 - Slyde [Slyde@***.user.msu.edu] left #etn ()

Obviously the hi-lighted section in bold, is what capped it for me. I have donated on a few previous occasions, and would have more than happy to have continued to donate in the future, if I would have thought my donations would have been appreciated.

I don't want this to be a personal attack against E-vangelist, however, the rest of ETN's staff has been more than gracious enough with me, and have showed appreciation to almost all patrons. While this may not be a 'big' deal to most, it is certainly not way to run an internet radio station, especially a small one where every patron matters.

Apparently, donations are no longer appreciated.

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Registered: Jun 2003
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april fools?


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Slyde
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit

quote:
Originally posted by placebo
april fools?

Unfortunatley no.

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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

lol, someone was Manstrating.

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UWM
mandroid



Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here

Put on your flame suits.

It seems that sometimes things are taken a bit too seriously / personal from the few times that I've been in that channel.

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quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
lol, someone was Manstrating.


yeah haha


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jonze
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: where blue skies meet the sunrise

you've been a member for over a year and have only made one post?

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Sunsnail
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I've spoken to the guy before, seemed nice. He doesn't give a fuck about donations before he doesn't pay for any of it himself. He gets the all the bandwidth for free, because he knows the owner of his host or something.

Oh well, ungrateful bastard

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Slyde
Junior tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Detroit

quote:
Originally posted by jonze234
you've been a member for over a year and have only made one post?

And for this, I apologize.

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Ian
Not dead yet.



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: UK

I Made a donation a bit ago, I just hope whoever opens the envelope I posted isn't allergic to sloppy poo

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JayD
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No site polotics my son =p.

JaY


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