Who says that rock is real muzik but electronic muzik isnt.

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Uhh...... how complex can it be when you can look at a song on a computer screen and add whatever sound you want, anywhere, anytime... or... create a beat and speed it up to whatever you want. with enough time, you could add tons of shit into any song and make it sound complex... but the fact is, youre looping samples in a non-linear audio program. Which is obviously going to be easier than writing a song on a real instrument and playing it. in the end, youre still sampling, looping, and clicking buttons on a computer to make music. its so much easier than creating real music.in the end, youre still sampling, looping, and clicking. Its so much easier than creating real music.

thats a quote from him its from a different forum.

Whats everyone take on this? If this has been covered somewhere else plz let me know.

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Erm, you could say that the nature of synthesising means you have an infinite number of sounds you can create which makes life more complex.

Also arranging many different samples in a computer program and making it sound good is pretty damn hard.

"Rock" musicians only have one instrument to concentrate on, plus playing backing guitar/bass/drums is pretty repetitive anyway and not that skilled (not that I can do it!).

Or just tell him to f*ck off.

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Originally posted by deknician Erm, you could say that the nature of synthesising means you have an infinite number of sounds you can create which makes life more complex. Also arranging many different samples in a computer program and making it sound good is pretty damn hard. "Rock" musicians only have one instrument to concentrate on, plus playing backing guitar/bass/drums is pretty repetitive anyway and not that skilled (not that I can do it!). Or just tell him to f*ck off.

Thnx m8

I like the last option he just refuses to believe that making muzik on a computer is hard at all.

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tell him you like listening to what you enjoy, not listening to what you think that is more difficult to create. and that it's quite subjective to say rock is harder to create than edm.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 tell him you like listening to what you enjoy, not listening to what you think that is more difficult to create. and that it's quite subjective to say rock is harder to create than edm.

Yea that's a good point: there is a saying that as long as it sounds good, does it really matter how it was made?

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Originally posted by Dj Minaya Thnx m8 I like the last option he just refuses to believe that making muzik on a computer is hard at all.

Tell him to try making music on a computer and see if he finds it easy.

Or you could take the moral high ground and explain to him he's an idiot for even starting an argument over which is best, since it's totally subjective; like trying to argue that red is better than blue.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 tell him you like listening to what you enjoy, not listening to what you think that is more difficult to create. and that it's quite subjective to say rock is harder to create than edm.

Thats a good mature response and just so ppl know I know it all boils down to what you like but im curious on ppls responses on this.

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A brat with pimpels and no skills can make a EDM tune pretty easy.. And I can write a rockballad today...
But I can't believe that it will be any good..
I actually think you need some talent to make a good track..

People like to look down on any EDM, it's because they actually know

nothing about it

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yep, i know this feeling. I once had someone shocked that i listen to music that "a computer made for me" I just laugh it off and walk away, insenuating they have no clue what they're talking about, and should probably do their homework before trying to insult my taste. Ignorance sure is rampant in human beings

oh yeah... forgot to mention that most rock is mastered *cough cough* WITH A COMPUTER before its pressed on cds

Most music is probably made or at least sequenced on computers these days anyway: they just have the additional opportunity to play it with real instruments when playing live.

Yeah he definitely has no idea what he's talking about.

He states how much he doesnt like EDM but loooves Mars Volta and I know they have an electronic edge to their sound.

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heh, well obviously he has never produced rock music. If only he knew all the tricks they use with pro tools. for instance they get one sample drum kick and add that one in to every kick in the song...



but potatoes potatoes, ya like whatya like.

Although he sounds like a moron, he is right to an extent, and most likely more right than you.

Electronic music is simple. It is easy to make. It is easy to make well in comparison to other types of music.

It makes me so angry when people here compare trance producers to classical composers, they are worlds apart in talent. There is no comparison.

That said it doesnt mean electronic music is not completly talentless, and it does have some integrity. However not nearly as much as other genres.