I need some help finding a piece of hardware. To make a long story short i'd like to find a piece of hardware for under $300 that can do what propellerheads rebirth(RB-338) does. From what i gather this is primarily a synth/drum machine is that correct? I know nothing of the terminology so i'm rather lost here.
I've been browsing ebay and checking out the following for starters.
Roland MC-505
Roland EF-303
&
Roland MC-303
Am i on the right track?
Like i said i'm completely lost here and i'm craving a new toy.
Any input here is appreciated.
do you mean the rebirth's bass/synth sounds?? if thats what you need go to ebay and search for roland tb-303 or TB303 or something... (note: its a bass synthesiser)
if you want a drum machine then... hmmm you dont need it with rebirth lol. just get a decent sequenser like fruity loops reason cubase w/e learn how to use them and then you can start thinking about hardware.
a tb303 would be nice tho.. even if its just for making weird acid sounds just for a lough
May-03-2005 13:29
Pjotr G
Mindcrawler
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Netherlands
rebirth emulates 2x TB303 + TR 808 + TR 909
Buying this in hardware would cost you around $3000.
Of course there are boxes like you mentioned, but they aren't much like rebirth. MC 303 is the oldest "groovebox". It's a normal-midi-lacking untweakable dipshit machine. Roland's next try, the MC 505 was an improvement by a factor 100. The EF 303 you mentioned is a fx-unit, you won't program beats out of that.
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May-03-2005 13:39
HeXp£Øi±
tranceaddict
Registered: May 2004
Location: Alaska
Alright it sounds like i don't really need a drum machine as i can use a software drum machine. I think the synthesizer/sound effects/groove machines are what i'm after if i want to try the 'hands on' approach. Another question. What are the advantages to having a keyboard like the jp8000? What other machines does a keyboard like this emulate? If i were only going to purchase one piece of hardware to mess around with would a keyboard be the most versitile or something else?
Thanks for putting up with my ignorance on the subject.
The advantage of having a JP8000 is the ability to make JP8000 sounds. It doesn't specifically emulate any synth (perhaps maybe Roland Jupiter hence the name, but ehhh not really). But if you learn to use the synth, you can make sounds on it that you have in your mind.
And there is no one best synth/solution.
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May-03-2005 18:15
HeXp£Øi±
tranceaddict
Registered: May 2004
Location: Alaska
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Originally posted by Pjotr G
The advantage of having a JP8000 is the ability to make JP8000 sounds.
What sounds are those? Lol. This is more difficult than i imagined.
So if you learn to use the synth on the jp8000 you can create sounds you have in your mind? That sounds like something i'd be interested in. Can you create rythm or grooves with those keyboards? I'm not really looking for any 'best' solution just for something that is versatile, fun and that i can learn from(not to mention make crazy insane music/grooves/whatever).
Kind of difficult to communicate when i have zero vocabulary on the subject. I know this might be difficult but can you guys make any sort of recommendations? It's not really that big of a deal. If i buy something that doesn't suit me i can always turn around and sell it.
I'll probably limit myself to $500 or possibly $600.
true that. If you really hate pc's and you don't want to use one in production, I'd suggest one of the following as a starter solution:
- Roland MC-505
Rompler + sequencer
OR
- Yamaha RM1x
Rompler + sequencer
OR
- Korg Electribe M(x)
Rompler + sequencer
All these fall within your budget and allow you to fidget and get accustomed to production. Note that if you don't hate pc's you can just buy fruityloops and be done with it a lot cheaper (not counting the pc)
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May-03-2005 19:56
HeXp£Øi±
tranceaddict
Registered: May 2004
Location: Alaska
Actually i love my pc and have some other audio apps including fruity loops. I just haven't used them much and think it'd be a hell of a lot more fun to use two hands over a mouse. I'll look into those you mentioned. Thanks.
yes a keyboard is a controller, but a controller isn't necessarily a keyboard, can also be knobs or faders or stuff, or both keyboard and the knobs/faders, or anything sending some midi.
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May-03-2005 22:56
wink
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Seattle, Washington
honestly man, i think you should just sequence as much as you can out of the software that you have. then if you still like it in about 2 years go out and buy some hardware. theres not really any use going and spending the money on expensive hardware if your still learning. saturate yourself in music terminology and production tutorials from all over and you will find yourself in a much better place. =)
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