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JM
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
Shame / Disagreement livesets on ebay

i was checking out ebay and i saw ppl were selling (auctioning)off livesets and burned liveset cds.....

and U, the one reading this right now could be the culprit!!!
i think it's wrong to sell livesets, i mean, they're on the internet to be downloaded for free, and release groups, the webmasters and the artists themselves dont make any money on the livestes, so why the hell should the ppl auctioning them!!!!!

just my opinion, it's called sharing music, NOT selling it......

plz post your opinions.....

>JM<

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dig2k
ArminAddict



Registered: Aug 2001
Location: UK

that is taking the FUCKING piss...

The rippers + uploaders do all the work and try 2 share music with others then these ******s come along and sell em. I would b esp. pissed if i was the DJ as well!

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flystyler
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Aylesbury, UK

This ia failry big issue, especially with the thing with blackhole recordings. They said the only mp3's they would allow online were livesets, and this could mean the end of that as well. And it is totally wrong to make money off of them.

But there is not much we can do about it. Obviouslky there is a need for livesets, and people will supply to that demad. It just is a shame that further down the line it may effect us


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tranceDJ
The Music Tickles My Ears



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: USA

I agree, it really is a bunch of bullshit. I was thinking of doing that a year ago but decided not to because its really stupid...you're really ripping people off.

I once bought some PvD sets off of EBay but they were really rare and couldn't be found on the internet so I can see that being kind of ok but still the guy I bought from was selling copies of other people's works which isn't right.

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Kytracid
No more subliminal shit..



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Lost, somewhere in the breakdown...

Selling LiveSets is WRONG !!! The people who do these kinda things don't care about the music all they see is the $$$. I for one would never buy a liveset no matter how rare it is because the chances are the someone somewhere will have it.

Music should be shared (and traded if u really have to)...only producers should sell their music.

My $0.02


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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Music should be shared (and traded if u really have to)...only producers should sell their music.


i totally agree! i mean, it' OK to sell used records/cd's cos the producers already got their share...but NOT livesets,

i dunno, it's just a shame

>JM<

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Sunlounger
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Registered: May 2001
Location: San Francisco

its okay ppl, i dont think anyone would be stupid enough to buy them.

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billu
The Don



Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
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yeah.....i'm with you guys on this... definitley... can't sell livesets, it just sounds stupid too... im tryin to figure who would ACTUALLY buy them!.... cyz

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tranceDJ
The Music Tickles My Ears



Registered: Feb 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by tru-Mac
its okay ppl, i dont think anyone would be stupid enough to buy them.


If you look these things up on ebay, people have actually placed bids. When I bought mine I had only recently gotten into trance so I didn't know too much...I would never buy that now that I know a lot more.

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dvd
i dont like prog



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: daly city, ca

haha its funny acually cause some of our TAs have done that..* .no names..........*


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Coup
Retired



Registered: May 2001
Location: England, UK

they need there balls chopping off! just outa of topic, what are they selling and how much for? if there like a comment field where u can voice ur opinion? *coup starts the rant on ebay*

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DJ Sarah H
Louboutin's Bitch



Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby



Selling of live sets has been an issue for many years, it did not start with ebay.com
Over here in the UK, up and down the whole country on a sunday morning we have events in every farmers field, every school yard, anywhere really where there is a huge amount of space , known as the " BOOT SALE ".
this is where ppl pay to park their cars and sell their old crap from home out of the boot (trunk to our US friends) of their car.
And u get a lot of these ppl selling illegal copied CDs, videos, tapes etc, mainly the commercial pop crap but a bit of everything.

There are so many of these sales that the police here cant possibly check them all, so ripped off CDs and live sets are sold all over.

I agree with all of you, that shareing of music is good, but selling copied CD's and livesets is Wrong !
The record companys and producers dont differarentiate between MP3 sharers or cd copiers, they just see it as ppl eating into their profits and of course they want it to stop.

With this happening it's no wonder they record companies and the RIAA tend to pick on the MP3 scene as its easier to close a website or a file share application like napster cos they are more visable and can be traced to a person, than having to scour market places and boot sales.

Maybe they need to start looking at places like ebay and take out the ppl making money from ripping them off, cos we here in the MP3 scene share for enjoyment, not for Profit !


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