In another thread I've started some time ago ('Tiësto... Faker?') there was something about Tiësto not producing his own music. I'd like to discuss more about this subject.
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It's already been discussed to death. Try using the search function.
May-11-2005 16:42
sandstorm03
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they all get help... i am sure they all send their stuff/samples around to see others opinions & to get feed back. And play it out to see the reactions.
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May-11-2005 16:42
torontotrance
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Tiesto like most big name artists have relied heavily upon other producers to push his work. Oakenfold with Grey and Osbourne did the same, Sasha with Charlie May and others, Digweed with Nick Muir.
Tiesto used some samples of things for his songs, his Traffic song used a sample of techno producer Sean Deason's Pyskofuk (sp?). Tiesto is just doing what made others very, very rich. Look at Norman Cook, he has used tons of samples for years (he's paid for the rights to the samples) and he's done well.
Yes some of old EDM heads may hate tiesto's direction now but his business sense is certainly not stupid. If you can't make a riff that you like, use a part of someone's else (with permission of course). Just don't end up like Mauro Picotto who stole blue fear and lost a suit because of it.
May-11-2005 16:43
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Originally posted by sandstorm03
they all get help... i am sure they all send their stuff/samples around to see others opinions & to get feed back. And play it out to see the reactions.
Starts countdown till flame war
I myself produce music too, and sure, I listen to other peoples oppinions to improve my work. But I meant that the music is COMPOSED by another person.
see I honestly don't give a fuck as long as they have paid for the sample or got the permission to use it.
May-11-2005 16:46
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Originally posted by Traiden
I myself produce music too, and sure, I listen to other peoples oppinions to improve my work. But I meant that the music is COMPOSED by another person.
search button then...
its all opinion unless other artists come out like Fred Baker and make statements.
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May-11-2005 16:48
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what is important?
who made it or how good it is?
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May-11-2005 17:04
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unless he does a collaboration with someone...still...
straight out of his own musical producing mind and hands...
M.I.K.E. keeps it realll!!SO RECOGNIZEE!
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May-11-2005 17:10
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I thought MIKE tried to take credit for Haak - Frenzy
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May-11-2005 17:18
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Using samples is absolutly fine. It's like remixing a track. The new prodigy album is nothing but samples and i fuckin love it. Having others compose/produce music for you and not credit them is wrong. If you credit them then I couldn't give a rats ass. I'll lose some respect for you as an artist if you did none of the work but if its a collaboration and it's credited power to you.
May-11-2005 17:44
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Originally posted by torontotrance
see I honestly don't give a fuck as long as they have paid for the sample or got the permission to use it.
It does piss me off that many artists are simply too fucking lazy to compose their own stuff, so just sample the work of others. It's one of the biggest problems with dance music that every other track is built around a sample. Just look at Robot Rock by Daft Punk- they're essentially selling someone else's music as their own.
DJ's producing their own music or not?
