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May-18-2005 17:36
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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i think my letter was a little more mature.
But the pic is definately funny. Im sure some ass will yell sexism though even though plenty of men have been made fun of in politics in the past in worst ways. Just open your daily paper to see political cartoons.
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May-18-2005 17:48
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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| quote: | By TERRY WEBER
Wednesday, May 18, 2005 Updated at 12:06 PM EDT
Globe and Mail Update
Stronach deserves apology, MPs say
Newly minted Liberal Belinda Stronach was the target of “overt sexism” in the wake of her decision to cross the floor in the House of Commons and deserves an apology from Conservative Leader Stephen Harper and his colleagues, a group of women Liberals charged Wednesday.
Speaking with reporters in Ottawa, members of the Liberal women's caucus accused Mr. Harper and others of “unacceptable and disrespectful” comments following Ms. Stronach's departure from the party and said both she and the women of Canada are owed an apology.
“I think it's important that we try to raise the level of discourse and debate and they shouldn't be reduced to the kinds of throw away comments that people are clearly using last night and this morning,” Liberal MP Judy Sgro said.
“So I would call on Mr. Harper to apologize to Ms. Stronach and to women of Canada and ask his colleagues to very much do the same so that we can try and restore some level of respect and discussion here in Ottawa.”
Ms. Stronach's decision Tuesday to leave the Conservatives and join the Liberals sent shockwaves across the country.
She cited concern about the Conservatives' decision to align themselves with the separatist Bloc Québécois as a key reason for the move. Her decision came just days before a key budget vote in the House of Commons and cast doubt over the ability of Conservatives and members of the Bloc to topple the government.
The move drew scorn from Conservatives across the country, sparking personal attacks on the MP, who represents the Ontario riding of Newmarket-Aurora.
“She sort of defined herself as something of a dipstick, an attractive one, but still a dipstick, with what she's done here today. She is, at the end of the day, going to paint herself as something of a joke,” Ontario MPP Robert Runciman said of the move.
Tony Abbott, a Conservative member of the Alberta legislature, described Ms. Stronach as a “political harlot” and called the situation as one of “a little rich girl who is basically whoring herself out to the Liberals.”
Mr. Harper, meanwhile, told reporters in Montreal: “I've never really noticed complexity to be Belinda's strong point.”
Headlines around the country also described Ms. Stronach's announcement as a “blonde bombshell.”
At Wednesday's news conference, women members of the Liberal caucus described those kinds of comments as “overtly” sexist and noted that, when former Conservative Scott Brisson crossed the floor, he wasn't subject to the same level of personal attack.
“I don't think you'll disagree with me that being called a dipstick and being called a whore is the same thing,” Liberal MP Sarmite Bulte said, when asked by a reporter if friendly comments about Ms. Stronach's shoes were also sexist.
“It's not the same thing and it's not acceptable.”
Meanwhile, Liberal MPs cheered and applauded Ms. Stronach as the former Tory joined them at their weekly caucus.
Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan told Stronach that her jump to the governing party “took courage and it took guts.”
With a file from Canadian Press
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I dont get it. People make fun of politicians all the time. So its not sexist to make fun of brian mulroney's chin but it is sexist to make fun of Belinda's blonde hair? Its not sexist to call stockwell day or joe clark old dinosaurs but it's sexist to call stronach a dipstick? As for the political whores comment, i do think that crossed the line a little but i think it was probably taken from the famous line by American humourist P.J. O'Rourke who famously described politics as a "parliament of whores," He was of course reffering to men, not women at the time.
Personal attacks are very common in politics. Has anyone ever seen a political cartoon? Screaming sexism here is nothing more than their own brand of smear tactics and im not buying it.
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Everything in this country is illegal. |
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill
"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill
Last edited by Jayx1 on May-18-2005 at 18:25
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May-18-2005 18:16
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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA
Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
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| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
good for you for sending it (even though I'd be writing a letter congratulating her for leaving Harper's incompetent leadership behind).
I suspect that she'll have quite a few positive letters though too...I *highly* doubt there will just be a pile of angry letters.
The next election results, whenever they occur, will be the judge of that though...my money would be on her keeping her seat if she runs in the same riding. |
Like i said, judging on the reaction around here from people on my street and seeing interviews on CKVR i think there are a lot more pissed off newmarket-aurora constituents at this point.
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Everything in this country is illegal. |
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill
"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill
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May-18-2005 18:26
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