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Zenn
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Registered: Jan 2005
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Practicing for some 1 just started !

Hi every 1
as a title say's , can some 1 help me out , whats a good exercise
to do mixing with vinyl's please.

i just bought turntales and mixer but i realy dont know how to start

tnx


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Project 7
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Just keep practising and practisin and ... practising

learn how to beat match, it will take ages to master, depending how long you work on it

bassically plenty of practise

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Zenn
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Re: Practicing for some 1 just started !

no 1 has an id ?
thats right my english is not well but hope u undrestand what i mean !!


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Zenn
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quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
Just keep practising and practisin and ... practising

learn how to beat match, it will take ages to master, depending how long you work on it

bassically plenty of practise

ty my friend but what i need to practic i , my mixer hasnt any pbm counter and i cant touch my deck coz when i touch it jumps and another thing is i realy dont know if i put the needle in a right way and is it balance or not


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TranceSpeeder
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Registered: Jun 2003
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get 2 of the same songs and try beat-matching that first, always helped me allot. then work on the lows mids and highs after u get beat-matching down.

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Michael May
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Detroit
Re: Practicing for some 1 just started !

quote:
Originally posted by Zenn
Hi every 1
as a title say's , can some 1 help me out , whats a good exercise
to do mixing with vinyl's please.

i just bought turntales and mixer but i realy dont know how to start

tnx


Of course get advice from people around here that spin vinyl, but you should see about ordering this book also. It's called "How To DJ Right ,The art and science of playing records". It helped me out alot. I'd give ya advice on vinyl, but I spin cds, so I can't really talk about something I know nothing about. I can beatmatch in the drop of a dime and mix pretty good, but I never messed with vinyl.
Good luck!

Rock On,

Mike

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Michael May
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quote:
Originally posted by Project 7
Just keep practising and practisin and ... practising

learn how to beat match, it will take ages to master, depending how long you work on it

bassically plenty of practise


By the way, beatmatching does not take ages to master. It depends on the person and how much you practice. I know 17 year olds that can beatmatch better than me, and I'm 26.

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ryo
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I thought www.recess.co.uk has a good guide to start with.


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Psionic
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Registered: Apr 2003
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I'd go with TranceSpeeder's advice. Use two vinyls that are the same tune and have a very recognizable bassline that starts early in the track. That way you don't need to worry about the other elements of the track interfering so much with the bassline.

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Zild
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike123
By the way, beatmatching does not take ages to master. It depends on the person and how much you practice. I know 17 year olds that can beatmatch better than me, and I'm 26.


He said it takes ages to MASTER it not it takes ages to be better than you at it. Most DJs haven't mastered beatmtching and that is OK because it takes a long ass time. If you have a shaky mix every now and again and you can't ride the pitch perfectly without touching your vinyl except to cue it then you haven't mastered beatmatching.


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Vyper0987
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Registered: Jun 2004
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what type of music do u want to spin?

i spin trance and progressive, but when i was learning to beatmatch, i just bought some record package two of the same vinyls. the records had some pretty distinct basslines in it, and the tracks were only like 125-130 bpm. slower records made it easier at first.

as for a bpm counter, you don't need one. you just need to practice A LOT so that you can do it by ear. it's going to be very frustrating at first, but with time, it won't be too difficult.

and there's a knob on the back of the tone arm that will help with that needle jumping.

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Exodus17
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Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Dallas Tx USA : TX TA #73

1.when you touch the record, be gentile with it, dont jerk it around, try moving the record back and fourth with just your fingertips rather than half your arm
2.remember that there are usually always little changes when you count 8 bass kicks(beats) 4times (32beats)

3.when you try and match two tracks, try and start with the very first beat of the next track rather than just letting them play randomy and matching beats....

use tips 2 and 3 together and if you have them matched well they should both have their little changes at the same times .... quik example here - Bm = bass kick, tss = hi hat

song structure- Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm (8x1)| Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm (8x2)| Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm (8x3)| Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm Bm (8x4)*** (new sound here) Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss Bm tss....


count the beats, the 4th time you get to 8, the next beat usually introduces/cuts out an instrument

this is how beatmatching is possible, match the first beat of your cue track with that "33rd" beat of the playing track (next beat after the 4 8s) and things happen at the same - called phrase matching

oh and btw, do a search on BPM counters here in the DJ booth and you'll find plenty of posts on how much they suck and arent as spiffy as they're advertised to be


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