as many of you might know, there is a bill moving its way through the US congress that would make it illegal for woment to be assigned to units in the military below the level of brigadier whose purpose is to engage in combat. your thoughts?

i think they should allow only non-fertile women to be in combat and ban the fertile ones. is not this what its all about at the heart of the matter? protecting the ability humans to procreate?

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I thougt it was because if they are captured they would be systematicly raped. Also roviding two sets of everything (toilets and so on) is a pain in the arse too.

Well, personally I don't see why they should be banned as long as they pass necessarry physical tests. If they want to risk their lives and everything, by all means, go ahead girlies.

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Originally posted by Dervish I thougt it was because if they are captured they would be systematicly raped. Also roviding two sets of everything (toilets and so on) is a pain in the arse too.

i think there's something to said about the raping issue, but it's moot in a way, if the women can't have kids. i'm not sure tho. there some stuff about politics of sex here but i can't put my finger on it.

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In some places they are in the combat units. Israel is one place I think.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange i think there's something to said about the raping issue, but it's moot in a way, if the women can't have kids. i'm not sure tho. there some stuff about politics of sex here but i can't put my finger on it.

Just b/c she can't have kids, doesn't mean she can't catch an STD.

I'm sure I won't be able to find the link (it might have been print, anyway), but a while back there was an article on the psychological reasons that having women front-line combat troops could be hard for the group.

One reason was as listed before; rape. Not only is it horrible at first, but it also has lingering effects, such as preganacy. It's kind of like long-term pyschological warfare. Even if there was an abortion, the thought of being impregnated by the enemy in such a horrible way has lasting effects.

Secondly was that it has been shown that humans, both male and female, are better able to cope with the death of a male than a female. For some reason we are wired to be more emotionally sensitive to a female's death than a male. The frontline deaths of females would be a major morale issue.

Third is the "birds and bees" issue. Men and women living and fighting together are bound to have interactions that are a little "informal." These non-planotic bonds can be difficult when giving orders or in maintaining objectivity and clear judgement.

I think that women should be allowed to fight front line if needed. However, it seems that we already have more than enough men to fight there, and there is no real reason to introduce women. However, as said before if they are to fight there, they need to undego the same training and the same tests physically and mentally as the men. If the guy on the right can hoist me over his back and pull me out of danger, the girl on my left better be able to do the same thing.

Now the physiological reasons for not having front line women is a whole other issue...

Banned? No. That would be going overboard.

Generally, however, it would be more strategically sound to keep them out of typical combat operations. It should, therefore, be left in the hands of the officers responsible for strategy, not some half-assed declaration by a wholly unqualified Congress.

I do not believe that in today's society where we try to have perfect equality that there should be a ban on what women can or can't do. I think that it is pointless. If a woman wants to fight in the war, why stop her? Why must the USA ban everything!

yeah, banning sounds REALLY stupid imo, if they are willing to take the risk, let them.

i agree banning them wouldn't be a good thing

I say make a whole Batallion of just women trained to fight.

They say that after a while, women who spend a lot of time together that women start having their periods at the same time.

Imagine a whole platoon of PMS'ing women on the front lines.

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