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Channel Surfer
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
HUGE Saw Synth in Reason

ok, i've already searched "saw sound" and "reason" and haven't found what i was looking for so don't "flame" me or whatever....

I want the huge trance saw sound.....even if i never use it wanna know how to build it.....would you layer many saws and eq them, is there a really good patch to start with?.....if so from what refill and where is it available.....is it effects?.....ie a really buzzy annoying little saw can be made all huge by really wet deep rvb?....think ron van den buken (tons of reverb yet really clean and huge, great arena sound.)

anyways, what do you think?


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Project 7
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heres a nice supersaw for reason

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Allen&Bream
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quote:
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heres a nice supersaw for reason

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Thanks

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Channel Surfer
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: San Diego, CA

awesome but maybe lets have some disscussion about building one from the ground up. Like which ossilators to use, how to tune them, any LFO use, fxs etc?....


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03.07 PIRATES OF PUGET SOUND 3, SEA

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Vizay
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Registered: Dec 2001
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it's pretty easy if you only think it through a little

you use the two malstroms for the thickness in the sound, use the sawtooth*16 samples from it.
Then play around with the shift knob and the index slider untill you get the desired sound from that instance of the malstrom. The important thing is that you don't get that typical unisonsound wich sounds very wet (can't explain it better, just try putting a unison with full wettness on and you'll get what I mean )

then to give the sound it's edge you put in a subtractor with 2 saws. The subtractor has a very characteristic sound in it's high frequencies, this is why you put the sub in there instead of a third malstrom.

Then all you have left is the EQ part (and compression if you're going to use it in a production)

Just use your ears for eqing and you'll hear what's right and not, it's really easy if you just play around a little.


what I think is really funny with that rps file is that it has so much crap in it, it has like 3 or 4 units wich isn't even used or connected with the malstrom and sub units
it's 100% messy when it comes to connectiong the devices


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Channel Surfer
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: San Diego, CA

excallant feedback Vizay. so you would say doubling the lines is the way to go huh? I've been reluctant to do that becuz I don't like phase issues or doubled harmionic ranges which can cause peaking....

but i guess like you said it's all about the eqing, compression, and i'm sure some panning....

very nice.

do you use any reverb, or like other effects once the dry sound is well established? maybe a delay with a real tight setting. so you don't like the unison is that what I'm hearing???

thanks again.


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RiCo
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I made a Supersaw once with 4 Subtractors. It took me a while to get it to sound right by experimenting with the detuning but eventually I got it right and it sounded pretty convincing.

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BOOsTER
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Registered: Jan 2002
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is this what you're looking for? (SAMPLE HERE)

I made it in a few minutes in Reason with 4 subs...and a malstrom...quite ok...not sure if it's great or even convincing though...anyway if you want the combipatch or rns file just tell me


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Danne__85
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Sweden

Here's my try of making a Saw-sound.

Sample: http://www.lnctv.com/~a41154a/samples/saw.mp3

And with some beats to it: http://www.lnctv.com/~a41154a/sampl...th%20Remix).mp3

Last edited by Danne__85 on Jun-14-2005 at 19:53

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qiushiming
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Singapore, SG

danne that was really wicked....what did you use?

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Danne__85
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Sweden

1 Subtractor's and 2 Malstrom's (in Reason).

What does "wicked" means? ain't good in english.

Edit: I made a little change in my sample. Added a filter-change and another part.

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it means "snygg"



like cool, tuff, awsome ...


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