IMO it's always bad idea to limit political expression. the amendement won't stop persons from 'desecrating' the flag. i'm sure people will just urinate on it or do something similar.
won't it also clash with the first amendement? what happens to the first amendment? ur thoughts?
Havent heard about this but i guess its that they want to ban the burning of the flag?
Very unfortunate then imo, US used to have good free speech laws, if this passes i guess that is the beginning of the end.
Jun-23-2005 00:47
metalgearsolid
I am a sexist
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/
yea it passed but hey slowly they are taking away our rights but hey no complaining from the ppl
Jun-23-2005 00:48
St_Andrew
I <3 NYC
Registered: May 2003
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
okay, so i read some stuff about it now, and its only passed by the house so far and it looke like its not gonna be passed by the senate. then i also read quotes like this:
quote:
``Ask the men and women who stood on top of the Trade Center,'' said Rep. Randy (Duke) Cunningham, R-Calif. ``Ask them and they will tell you: pass this amendment.''
Jun-23-2005 01:33
ProDiGaL
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Earth, Solar System
doesnt the flag represent the freedom you so love and enjoy, which *cough* also includes the freedom to burn the flag?
its like a paradox.
-what are you in for jimmy?
-burning a peice of cloth bubba.
-oh ok, now im going voilate you analy.
umf umf umf
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Jun-23-2005 01:58
occrider
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: New York
quote:
"If the flag needs protection at all, it needs protection from members of Congress who value the symbol more than the freedoms that the flag represents." said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.
I doubt it will pass. Even if it passes the senate 3/4 of the states then need to pass it. Out of 11,000 attempts to pass amendments, only 27 have been passed.
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Jun-23-2005 02:02
arnoldjch
"Oracle of Miami"
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: A place i call home.
Well idk about that amendment, but burning the flag of your nation is disrespectful. I agree that the flag of your country stands for everything that country has to offer to you. If you urinate on a flag might as well leave that country because such actions give the idea that you dislike that country..... Many soldiers have died defending that flag and doing such thing will be disrespecting them also, showing that you dont care for the freedom you are enjoying today.
Jun-23-2005 03:41
Dupz
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Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Melbourne
quote:
Originally posted by arnoldjch
Well idk about that amendment, but burning the flag of your nation is disrespectful. I agree that the flag of your country stands for everything that country has to offer to you. If you urinate on a flag might as well leave that country because such actions give the idea that you dislike that country..... Many soldiers have died defending that flag and doing such thing will be disrespecting them also, showing that you dont care for the freedom you are enjoying today.
fair enough, but should you take away the freedom to dislike your country?
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Jun-23-2005 03:44
arnoldjch
"Oracle of Miami"
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: A place i call home.
quote:
Originally posted by Dupz
fair enough, but should you take away the freedom to dislike your country?
Our rights to dislike our country(homeland) should not be taken away, and they are not. There are many ways to show and make the politicians know what they are doing is not correct like protesting etc. America doest not operate by itself is the peep who we elect, America is were we live at.... its like saying you dont like your house, the only notion that you can use for that is how it looks, style, construction etc.. but you cannot do that with America, people dislike America how some peeps are operating. America its not the fault of the problems we get into... Im not saying that is always the politicians fault but also sometimes the systems fault. But doing this kind of action burning a flag its not right, soon people are going to want to burn crosses
Jun-23-2005 03:54
Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
fire is cool.
muhahahaha
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Jun-23-2005 04:58
kush paintings
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Registered: Jun 2004
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I should save my post that I wrote a few days ago, as I feel I will be using it more and more. This country is the incredibly hot and perfect girlfriend that I take for granted. Now, my heart is broken as I see her drift further away from me, she becomes a shadow of what she once was.