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wwu.punisher
The Enigma



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Washington State
A serious thread about employment ideas...

I've spent the last two weeks applying for jobs, going to interviews, etc. Fresh out of college with no "real" work experience, however, I am finding that I'm going to have to start out as someone's coffee boy before I get anything at a decent pay range.

So, I've applied at several private firms, a few banks, and a handful of state agencies. I'm trying to brainstorm new places to apply. Anyone with some actual job experience got any ideas? (Hint: If you're under 21... don't reply to this thread. If I wanted a job in a restaurant or at a store in the mall, I wouldn't be posting about this... because I've had those jobs in the past.)

I just need ideas... And in case information about me helps... I've got my diploma, my Associate's Degree, and my Bachelor's Degree in Communication/English. I also have a Microsoft certification in Access and another in Excel, I can type up to 130WPM, and I have been around computers since I was three years old. I know desktop systems inside-out and can handle just about any problem related to them, including networking, hardware, and software. I also have about as much volunteer experience as you could possibly expect the average person to have. (Takes almost three quarters of the second page of my resume.)

Thanks in advance to anyone who posts something helpful.


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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

oh, I thought maybe you had a degree in web design er soemthing. From what ive seen, bach degree in english or some other lib arts thing are useless. seemsliek the pathway you have to take (unless you have someone hook u up with a job) is the coffee boy routine where you go through the shit and work ur way up.


have you thought of relocating to a city with a better job market?

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NiteMer
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Denver, CO

You can go into sales. There are a lot of places that are willing to try their luck on a "fresh out of college" kid. I started out in telecom, and made bank there, but the job sucked. It all depends on what you're willing to put up with.


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wwu.punisher
The Enigma



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Washington State

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
oh, I thought maybe you had a degree in web design er soemthing. From what ive seen, bach degree in english or some other lib arts thing are useless. seemsliek the pathway you have to take (unless you have someone hook u up with a job) is the coffee boy routine where you go through the shit and work ur way up.


have you thought of relocating to a city with a better job market?


I almost went to school for computer science, but decided that it would be pointless to pay $30k for a piece of paper that says I'm capable of doing things that I have been able to do since middle school.

I had the time to focus on two things for my major, so I did. English was just something to play around with because I didn't find any of the courses even remotely challenging. Communication, on the other hand, required some actual effort. I plan on using it to get me into public relations, marketing, etc. I just can't find anything in those fields in my immediate area (Olympia, WA) that interests me.

I think I might have to move to Seattle or Vancouver, BC to find the kind of job I want. This sucks.


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euphoria
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: New York
Re: A serious thread about employment ideas...

If you were in NY I coulda got you a job ages ago. You have all the qualifications to work at my corporation.

Off the top of my head I do know that Geico is always hiring according to my friend who was a manager there, you should check them out.

I would say, if worst comes to worst go to a temp agency at the very least you will get some type of $$ for the time being and sometimes those jobs lead to permanent positions. I can vouch for that because I got my job that way. I was temp here for 6 months and then they perm hired me. I been here 3 years now.

If you dont want to go the temp route try post offices, look up some major corporations in your area on hot jobs and even if they arent hiring fax a resume over in attention to human resources, you never know. I know people who had some luck doing that, in certain cases they employers need someone but havent gotten around to posting an add but if you respond before they do it saves them work and they decide to give you a try.

Post your resume on any site you can just to get your name out there, go to hot jobs, monster etc. In addition to the paper check websites as well, some companies dont list opening in the paper.


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DjConfessions
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Jamesfranco, France

Go to a technology expo. they set up LOTS and LOTS of appointments with the average "hello, i'm jacob, i like games"-ers. Then they have a SERIOUS inverview (about 45 minutes) to what your educated or uneducated ass can do for the company.
believe it or not, big companies do have part timers.

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igottaknow
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: The Future

go back to college and get a real degree.

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Creamfields23
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Tilburg City

Check out this book!

clicky, info!


I finished this book in three days for my study. It was very fun and inspiring to read and it totally changed my view on hunting for a job.

If you have time check it

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
it would be pointless to pay $30k for a piece of paper that says I'm capable of doing things that I have been able to do since middle school.


Believe it or not, but it's all in those papers!

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wwu.punisher
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Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Washington State

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
go back to college and get a real degree.


The communication program at WWU is the second-most competitive in the university. (The most competitive is the Woodring School of Education, followed closely by the Industrial Design program.) There were 13,000 students enrolled this past year. The communication program allows about 450 students at a time. The average applicant has to apply three times before getting into the program. I got in on my first shot because I had the benefit of an existing student mentor that told me how to put my portfolio together. My portfolio was 72 pages long including my application, resume, letter of interest, four writing samples, three letters of reccomendation, and an essay on what I thought made me a viable candidate for the program.

If you think communication is a bullshit major, think again. The two most sought-after skills in the American workforce today are communication skills and computer skills, in that order. Why? Because other majors don't require that students know anything about how to communicate effectively with other people. (Business majors at most major universities aren't even required to take ethics courses, so I find it hard to believe that anyone could find anything bad to say about a communication major.)

Do you even know what a communication major does to get their degree? I've yet to run into someone who calls it a bullshit major that even knows what it takes to finish the program.

I apologize for coming out on the defensive, but if you had just spent two years of your life studying things that most of the rest of this country doesn't even understand only to be told to go back to college, you'd be pretty fucking irked about it. One of my final papers for my degree was 53 pages on the influences of residence hall life on the social and educational development of college students in the United States, for the love of God. There are no studies on that. I had to develop my own surveys... conduct my own interviews... I did it my fucking self. I didn't sit in the library and piggy-back on someone else's research. If you know someone else who has done that for their Bachelor's degree, please tell me. Otherwise, think before you post something stupid.


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wwu.punisher
The Enigma



Registered: Mar 2004
Location: Washington State

quote:
Originally posted by Creamfields23
Check out this book!

clicky, info!


I finished this book in three days for my study. It was very fun and inspiring to read and it totally changed my view on hunting for a job.

If you have time check it



Believe it or not, but it's all in those papers!


Looks like pure gold. I'm going to pick up a copy tomorrow. Thanks.


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Ripped Bag
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Sorry kid, the likelihood of you getting a job, and then being laid off in 5-10 due to outsourcing is extremely high. The average joe (AA, BA) can expect to have up to 15 real jobs in his lifetime, and make 3 serious career moves.

Welcome to the real world.


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jrbuddha
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Re: A serious thread about employment ideas...

quote:
Originally posted by wwu.punisher
(Takes almost three quarters of the second page of my resume.)




2 page resume, and no work experience? Sounds like you have a lot of useless junk in your resume, which leads straight to the trash can. Most times you only have the first section (Objective) to catch an employers eye.


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