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starsearcher
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto
Jester The word "fail" should be banned say British teachers

Okay this is just getting pathetic...I don't find our school system in particularly HARD and it seems to be deteriorating somewhat...regardless, all these latest ideas about "students being too stressed" or "there's too much work" and now THIS just makes me laugh my ass off

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LONDON (Reuters) - The word "fail" should be banned from use in British classrooms and replaced with the phrase "deferred success" to avoid demoralizing pupils, a group of teachers has proposed.

Members of the Professional Association of Teachers (PAT) argue that telling pupils they have failed can put them off learning for life.

A spokesman for the group said it wanted to avoid labeling children. "We recognize that children do not necessarily achieve success first time," he said.

"But I recognize that we can't just strike a word from the dictionary," he said.

The PAT said it would debate the proposal at a conference next week.


Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/britain_...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-


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Jem_hadar
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That's complete bullshit.

Man, that's riddiculous and absurd. Cradling kids too much I dont think helps them either later on in life....


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Originally posted by Jem_hadar
That's complete bullshit.

Man, that's riddiculous and absurd. Cradling kids too much I dont think helps them either later on in life....


Exaclty...was just about to say the exact same thing...


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quote:
Originally posted by Jem_hadar
That's complete bullshit.

Man, that's riddiculous and absurd. Cradling kids too much I dont think helps them either later on in life....
How does the word "fail" help them on later in life?

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How does the word "fail" help them on later in life?


It helps them from becoming a panzy

Failing in school doesn't mean failing in life necessarily...

I see this turning already spoiled kids into even more whiney spoiled kids...and later in life when they DO fail in something they wouldn't know how to deal with it...failure is a part of life you can't be great at everything and you learn that at a younger age...you'll take it much harder if you learn that later in life IMO


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quote:
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How does the word "fail" help them on later in life?


Using flowery round-about language to cover up the general truth of the matter -- ie. if you failed or succeeded in completing an assignment or task or whut have you, does not help.

If the child failed miserby at the task, then he or she did. Hiding this reality form him or her, I feel, will only hinder them later on in life -- it's never gonna get easier on him or her. You gotta be able to accept and deal w/ the truth of things... w/o trying to disguise it.

If every other child rocked that assigned and only this one did poorly, then I see no reason why the child should not receive an F on the matter.

It's not so much that the word "fal" helps them later in life, it's the fact that "softening the world for them" or cradling them too much gives a false impression of the way the world acutally works. This, I feel, is not beneficial AT ALL.

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It helps them from becoming a panzy

Failing in school doesn't mean failing in life necessarily...

I see this turning already spoiled kids into even more whiney spoiled kids...and later in life when they DO fail in something they wouldn't know how to deal with it...failure is a part of life you can't be great at everything and you learn that at a younger age...you'll take it much harder if you learn that later in life IMO


Yes, you gotta learn how to deal with failure. Mommy and Daddy or whoever will not be around forever to help you out and bail you out.

Failture is a part of life and you learn from it and it can also motivate you -- this should not be hindden from children.

Dealing with failure is someone we all must learn to accept and move past. Grow from it, let it push you, let it give you insight -- reflect on it and use it to your advantage in the future.

~Jem~


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TheVrk
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"Deffered success"????????

COMPLETE joke....

So maybe a loss in the Premier League should
be called a deferred victory

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kids get DIPLOMAS for "graduating" grade 5 now... WTF??! a diploma for high school is barely warranted...

celebrating their mediocrity is NOT the way to build up confidence in our kids... the world is officially fucked..


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's hilarious.

We do the same thing though. There was a study done a couple years ago about how if you 'promote' someone's job title, while not necessarily increasing their salary, it increases their job satisfaction.

i.e.

Secretary - Administrative Assistant
Garbageman - Sanitary Engineer


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Idea

I've got an idea!

Why dont we just remove the letter 'F' from the alphabet altogether?

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y even go to school


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