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Swamper
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Read This! How do music royalties work? Does a composer get a check every week or month?

Very interesting read.

https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlik...oes_a_composer/

Composers and songwriters are paid by performing rights organizations or PROs for short. There are three in the US and one in every other country. They are ASCAP, BMI, and SESAC. I have included their websites at the end of this post if you want to go directly there to learn more. Basically, radio, tv, restaurants/bar, the web, etc. (Anywhere music is played AND money is made) must pay a fee to each of these companies. A songwriter can only be signed to one of these companies. They gather the money and distribute the royalties. Most songwriters are paid quarterly. They are generally paid three quarters behind so it can take some time to be paid for your songs. Also, songwriters need to register their songs in order to be paid. It is free to join SESAC if you meet with a rep. It is a very small fee ($50) or something close to that for ASCAP or BMI and can be done online. Also, it is hard to say for a #1 - depends on the genre But it will be substantial. Keep in mind, most songs are written by several people and those people often have publishers so it can be quite complicated and that number will be split and split again. You can learn more at www.sesac.com, www.bmi.com, and www.ascap.com.
To answer the other question below. These companies either use their own in house monitoring service to see which and when songs are played. Or they may use Nielsen Soundscan which is pretty much the industry standard. There are also companies that monitor the internet and pay songwriters for plays they find online and then pay songwriters either on their own or through one of the performing right companies mentioned above. One is called TuneSat, but there are others too.

Mechanicals: these are easy. The rate is set by the government and is paid on a per-sale basis at $0.091 per song sold, and that amount is divided up amongst the songwriters (so if there are two writers, each one of them gets $0.0455 for every song sold). They're collected and administered by either the record labels (who receive the gross money for the sale and pay everyone out) or in the case of cover songs, a company called the Harry Fox Agency. These payments are usually semiannual but sometimes quarterly.

Performance: this is a much wider net. Is your song in a TV show? Every time it plays you'll receive SOME money - how much is up to a complex formula based system put in place by the "Performance Rights Organizations" (i.e. ASCAP, BMI, SESAC, GMR, etc). I've made anywhere from 3 cents to over a thousand on a single TV play (depending on how long they use it, what time of day, how many people watch the show, what network, etc). Radio plays are also paid to the writers per play, and can be up to $15 per station per play. So if your song is getting 2000 spins a week (i.e. a hit song), that's $30k per week to split amongst the writers. Not bad. The PRO's all have different pay schedules, but to make things easy let's say they're basically quarterly.

Streaming comes through both lanes depending on if you're published and how the song is released. Spotify/Pandora will usually come through the PRO (sometimes the former through the route of the mechanical). The rub with these services is that the music labels will license the song to them extra cheap in exchange for stock on the company or large non-specific advances that they don't have to pass along to the artists/writers - no bueno. Which is why artists/writers are complaining about streaming while the corporate side is suspiciously silent..

And lastly if you are the artist you'll get an additional artist royalty from the label once you've made back the money they spent on you (or making your album). Producers are entitled to a similar royalty, albeit much smaller. And then there's this thing called "neighboring rights" in other countries where the people who performed on the song (musicians, producers, artists) and the label owners get an additional performance royalty for that - but that is for another day.

Fun fact: Simon Cowell's X Factor/ idol artists (one direction etc) almost all include musical samples played by Cowell (eg a single tambourine hit) on their records, so that Cowell personally receives PRS as a performer.
Source: am in industry and know a writer for Olly Murs/1D

Fun fact 2: while we're on the subject, there is a music production company that specialises in quite literally adding 'the one direction kick drum' to other people's work. They get paid a shocking amount for this.


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Johan (DJ Irish)
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Good summation indeed. Even as someone who has worked in the business for years this can still be difficult to to keep track of fully.


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Here in ghetto producer land we get 50/50 from the digital label paid biyearly. I almost made enough to buy a 12 pack of toilet paper once.

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DJ RANN
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I saw this on reddit too a few days ago - very interesting read, especially all the comments.

I know fairly successful film composers that have made more from one jingle than their entire scoring career combined (and score is one of the last few really lucrative areas of music).

one guy wrote the segway music for BBC world service. Makes an abosolure fortune from the royalties because it's played every hour (usually several times) on over a hundred stations worldwide.

The thing about stock share in lieu of payouts is evil though; I hope an artist successfully sues one of these deals to get a share of the stock, but it's sad it needs this to stop labels boning you.

The simon cowell thing doesn't surprise me though; the big music managers are always pulling shit like this because boybands and unknown artists are willing to sign anything to make it.

I've posted this before but the guy who created the backstreet boys and N'sync, Lou Pearlman, was listed as the 6th member of both these bands (him being a morbidly obese middle aged man), so he got PRS, then listed as a producer (so more points), then as their manager (15% of everything including his own 1/6 cut). He was estimated to be making around 20% of all revenues on releases which was unheard of since Elvis and the Colonel.

As the most successful boyband of all time. He made a fortune off it until the Backstreet Boys (and later N'Sync) sued him to get out of their contract with him.

He's now doing 25 years federal time for a massive ponzi scheme that he ran at the same time while having all these super popular boy bands make him millions.

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PoisonJam19
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I will get paid 50/50 royalties from the label on a quarterly basis... if my tracks sell... and they have to sell A LOT. Especially considering most labels have a minimum sales requirement to reach before you get paid out or even a "Mastering Fee" to cover the cost of getting your tunes mastered. It mostly seems like the artist is at the bottom of the totem pole, so to speak.


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