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Hamas blows hole in Gaza border
Apparently, other Muslim countries around aren't exempt from these hyenas...
Good luck Egypt!
quote:
Hamas blows hole in Gaza border
Hamas militants have destroyed a section of a concrete barrier erected along the Gaza-Egypt border.
Palestinian and Egyptian troops have been trying to shore up the barrier to stop Palestinians crossing into Egypt after the withdrawal of Israeli troops.
In chaotic scenes, thousands of Palestinians have streamed over the border in the last few days without undergoing official checks.
Despite this, Egypt says that its Gaza border is officially closed.
Militants from Hamas cleared an area before setting off explosives that blew away a section of the wall. Palestinian security officers present did nothing to prevent them.
A local Hamas commander warned them not to try to intervene, AFP news agency reported.
'In prison'
The Egyptian authorities set a deadline of 1800 (1300 GMT) for people to return to the right side of the Gaza border or face arrest.
The mass crossings have raised questions as to whether Egypt can honour its deal with Israel and maintain security along the border, correspondents say.
Many of those crossing have been going to visit relatives stranded on the other side, to buy cheaper food and other goods, or just out of curiosity.
Israel fears militants will exploit the situation to smuggle weapons into Gaza.
Egypt's ambassador to Israel, Mohammed Asim Ibrahim, has vowed to maintain law and order.
But the diplomat expressed sympathy for Palestinians from Gaza crossing the border.
"You're talking about people who have been physically in prison for the last 38 years. So some elements just rushed to the other side of the border," he added.
Symbol of resistance
In a separate development, the Palestinian Authority demolished a synagogue in the Kfar Darom settlement in Gaza.
It was here that many hundreds of Jewish settlers and opponents of the Gaza disengagement plan barricaded themselves on the roof in a last-ditch attempt to resist eviction.
The BBC's Matthew Price in Kfar Darom says the settlement has become one of the symbols of settler resistance to Israel's evacuation plan.
The Israeli cabinet had earlier voted that more than 20 synagogues at the evacuated settlement would remain standing.
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Sep-15-2005 01:39
shaolin_Z
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Shouldn't this be in the Isra-Pals thread?
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Sep-15-2005 01:43
Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Shouldn't this be in the Isra-Pals thread?
So where does Egpyt fit in there?
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Sep-15-2005 01:45
shaolin_Z
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
So where does Egpyt fit in there?
Well, I guess it's not entirely relevant to the conflict but why start another one that involves Israel or Palestine?
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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Sep-15-2005 01:47
Fir3start3r
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Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Well, I guess it's not entirely relevant to the conflict but why start another one that involves Israel or Palestine?
I guess since Egypt is the main subject of the article?
Bah, that other thread is all bloaty and stuff anyways.
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Sep-15-2005 01:58
shaolin_Z
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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I guess since Egypt is the main subject of the article?
Bah, that other thread is all bloaty and stuff anyways.
Good point.
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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
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Sep-15-2005 04:30
Yoepus
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Location: Ketchup fields, Texas
quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
Good point.
Yea if you actually want to start a serious debate on an issue in the conflict, that thread is defintely not the place to do it.
Real interesting.
My theory is the Palestinians are fleeing from their hell-hole. In comparsion to Gaza, Egypt is a paradise. Its a mexican-border corssing gone middle-eastern!
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Re: Hamas blows hole in Gaza border
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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Apparently, other Muslim countries around aren't exempt from these hyenas...
Well if you knew your history you'd know that the Arab (they aren't what you'd class as "Muslim Countries" like Israel is the "Jewish State" or Iran is an Islamic state) countries have fucked the Palestinians over just as much as the Israelis.
I dont think this story is as serious as you'd like it to be - did you not see the news when the Berlin Wall came down? This is an extremely similar situation. The people of Gaza have been under occupation and trapped in the Gaza prison the last 40 years so dont you think, if you were in that situation, you'd be extremely excited? Dont forget Gaza used to be Egypt and as the article points out, many want to see reletives (just like in Germany) lots are curious (just like in Germany) and many wanted to buy cheap food - can't see a problem with any of those to be honest, but a useful article if you want to twist it to suit an anti-Palestinian agenda...
Sep-15-2005 08:59
shaolin_Z
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Nice post George.
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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller
Sep-15-2005 11:43
Fir3start3r
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Re: Re: Hamas blows hole in Gaza border
quote:
Originally posted by George Smiley
Well if you knew your history you'd know that the Arab (they aren't what you'd class as "Muslim Countries" like Israel is the "Jewish State" or Iran is an Islamic state) countries have fucked the Palestinians over just as much as the Israelis.
I dont think this story is as serious as you'd like it to be - did you not see the news when the Berlin Wall came down? This is an extremely similar situation. The people of Gaza have been under occupation and trapped in the Gaza prison the last 40 years so dont you think, if you were in that situation, you'd be extremely excited? Dont forget Gaza used to be Egypt and as the article points out, many want to see reletives (just like in Germany) lots are curious (just like in Germany) and many wanted to buy cheap food - can't see a problem with any of those to be honest, but a useful article if you want to twist it to suit an anti-Palestinian agenda...
Nothing to do with anti-Palestinian agenda (on my end anyways); but there are other ways to cross a border than blowing up a wall!?
Infringing on a neighboring country's borders by assaulting their borders is usually frowned upon in the civilized world...that was my point...
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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."
