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Pinokio
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Does Vinyl Decks have Master Tempo?

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Old Post Sep-16-2005 23:38  Panama
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Nic
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no

they have a pitch slider though

why dont you have a look at some decks and work it out yourself?

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Keith Chambers
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quote:
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no

they have a pitch slider though

why dont you have a look at some decks and work it out yourself?


Perhaps you should take your own advice. Then maybe you wouldn't provide incorrect answers. I've found it's hard to make somebody else look like a fool when you're wrong.

Yes it does exist. Stanton has it on a number of their turntables. For example the STR8.150 has it:

http://www.stantondj.com/v2/prod_str8150.asp

Other Features:
-Start/Brake Speed Adjustment
-Digital Output [S/PDIF] Plug straight into CD-R or computer sound card
-Key Correction
-Selectable Phono or Line Output (Key correction works on line output only)
-Dual Start/Stop Buttons
-Height Adjustable Tone Arm
-Reverse Play
-3 speeds [33,45,78]
-Quartz Lock

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Cheetah86
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TTX-1's have key lock as well(it's the same thing), although it doesn't work well.

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Vero
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Registered: Oct 2003
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yeah, i think there is a numark model just below the TTX1 that has it as well. you arent gonna get great results from it though. the fact that you have to do 2 analog to digital conversions in the process, means you will loose some sound resolution. if you want pitch lock(master tempo) you might just wanna get some CDJs that will give you better quality in this function.

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Nic
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ive never heard of key correction being called master tempo, ive owned decks with key correction before (TTX's)

I thought he ment something completly different

my apologies

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Keith Chambers
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quote:
Originally posted by Vero
yeah, i think there is a numark model just below the TTX1 that has it as well. you arent gonna get great results from it though. the fact that you have to do 2 analog to digital conversions in the process, means you will loose some sound resolution. if you want pitch lock(master tempo) you might just wanna get some CDJs that will give you better quality in this function.


Honestly I don't think the CDJs are all that great at pitch locking. I never really liked the sound of the kick when I'd use it. Just way too much distortion. It was usually better to not use it at all. The _only_ quality key correction I've found is Serato Pitch n' Time. With PnT you can change the pitch/time with minimal artifacts. Then again it costs an arm and two legs and has nothing to do with analog turntables.

Check out an example of PnT:

Without PnT -
http://www.nitroevents.com/mp3/nopnt.mp3
With PnT-
http://www.nitroevents.com/mp3/pnt.mp3

I think PnT is pretty amazing.

But now and then you'll come across a song you love but just can't mix in to your style. I have a number of tracks like this.

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Pinokio
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Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Panama City, Panama

Thank you Very Much for your help guys.

So if I get Serato Scratch live , I don't need a Vinyl with Master Tempo?


Also What is PNT? is it a software or a hardware that I attach to the vinyl deck?


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So lemme get this straight. Master Tempo changes the tempo without altering the key of the song?

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Pinokio
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quote:
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So lemme get this straight. Master Tempo changes the tempo without altering the key of the song?



That's Correct, With Master Tempo you can Change the Speed of a Track and the Key remains locked.


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Perasma Vs BT - Swing 2 Gravity (Pepa Live Mash-up)
I Trance You!

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i remember a friends pioneer cd players. maybe cdj100's? (silver)

they had master tempo and it made the track sound like it was fluctuating in speed and every now and again the beat would sound wiered... do newer equipment still suffer this?


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quote:
Originally posted by richg101
i remember a friends pioneer cd players. maybe cdj100's? (silver)

they had master tempo and it made the track sound like it was fluctuating in speed and every now and again the beat would sound wiered... do newer equipment still suffer this?


That's true...the CDJ-500S does that as well, although I'm almost certain that this is not a problem on the CDJ-800 and 1000.


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