Obviously not good news
N.American cars just don't cut it and more
of the public realizes that....
Let alone all the cheap labour abroad

Sad just sad

that is not good news, not at all.

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Originally posted by TheVrk N.American cars just don't cut it and more

I wonder why that is the perception.

On a price-point/car-class basis, North American vehicles are nearly the same as foreign cars with respect to build quality.

2005 Initial Quality Study - JD Power

GENERAL MOTORS
Gold Plant Quality Award, North/South America - GM Oshawa #2
Silver Plant Quality Award, North/South America - GM Oshawa #1
Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality - Chevrolet Malibu/Malibu Maxx
Highest Ranked Full-Size Car in Initial Quality - Buick LeSabre
Highest Ranked Full-Size SUV in Initial Quality - Chevrolet Suburban
Highest Ranked Heavy Duty Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality - GMC Sierra HD
Highest Ranked Premium Midsize Car in Initial Quality - Buick Century

FORD
Highest Ranked Light Duty Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality - Ford F-150 LD
Highest Ranked Midsize Pickup in Initial Quality - Ford Explorer Sport Trac

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I wonder why that is the perception. On a price-point/car-class basis, North American vehicles are nearly the same as foreign cars with respect to build quality.

It mostly applies to economy cars imo.
I think it boils down to longevity.

I'm by no stretch of ANY imagination a car buff, but its pretty obvious that the avg N.American economy car is hurting by 200 000 kms.
Whereas as a German or Japanese economy car EASLIY clears 300 000 or more...

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker GENERAL MOTORS Gold Plant Quality Award, North/South America - GM Oshawa #2 Silver Plant Quality Award, North/South America - GM Oshawa #1 Highest Ranked Entry Midsize Car in Initial Quality - Chevrolet Malibu/Malibu Maxx Highest Ranked Full-Size Car in Initial Quality - Buick LeSabre Highest Ranked Full-Size SUV in Initial Quality - Chevrolet Suburban Highest Ranked Heavy Duty Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality - GMC Sierra HD Highest Ranked Premium Midsize Car in Initial Quality - Buick Century FORD Highest Ranked Light Duty Full-Size Pickup in Initial Quality - Ford F-150 LD Highest Ranked Midsize Pickup in [b]Initial Quality - Ford Explorer Sport Trac

Notice the recurring theme to the awards won?

I LOVE MY FORD FOCUS!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Ziggy I LOVE MY FORD FOCUS!!!!!!!!

In 2001 and 2002, Focus was the world’s best selling car.

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wow!

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

Unfortunatly it goes beyond just initial quaility.

The american themes have always been:
1) they will give you lots of features, even if they don't all work right and break down.
2) When the car breaks down, repairing will be cheap and easy.

The Japaneese always followed different rules:
1) They won't give you every feature under the sun, but things will work well.
2) If something breaks down, which is not often, it may be a little more expensive to fix, but it will happen less often.

The public got tired of the US bullshit. The US companies just took their segment of the market for granted, and believed that they would always have loyal consumers based on the fact that they are domestic.

unfortunatly this bad for Ontario as a whole. When this many jobs are taken away from any economy, everybody feels the pinch. THere is just less money as a whole to spend. Sales every where suffer.