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JM
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA
Dog Running how/why live sets have no or little copyright infringments???....

OK, i read that there are no or little copyright infringments when it comes to livesets, downloading/recording livesets...whatever..

can anybody shed some light on this matter??? i mean it's music and we're sharing it after all....

(i could be wrong on the entire thing, so plz tell me if i am)

>JM<

Old Post Dec-15-2001 08:12  United States
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AnotherWay83
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Registered: Aug 2000
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i mite be totally wrong on this...but i *think* w/ albums and singles, the artist gets a cut out of every sale...so in a way he's constantly earning from it...but in a liveset, he already has been paid, so he has earned his money and doesn't stand to lose anything by ppl. trading copies of it

i maybe wrong

peace

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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

in short: livesets are often recorded from the radio, and anything thats broadcasted on the radio has had its copyright's "removed" so to speak and its not illegal.. therefore d/l livesets is all chill cos it never had a copyright seeing it came from the radio

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goldenarmZ
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Registered: Mar 2001
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vinyl has no copyrights imposed on it.. i think

if im wrong please slap me

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Pjotr G
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OF COURSE songs pressed on vinyl are copyrighted. And OF COURSE released songs broadcasted on the radio are copyrighted. Otherwise you could burn songs you recorded from the radio to a CD and sell em legally (that's not legal obviously). I guess livesets broadcasted from the radio are the same deal as normal songs broadcasted on the radio.

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Gekhous
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ohoohoh, u know y live sets aint copyrighted (nice word )??

cuz the tracks r already copyrighted by the producers, the dj cant copyright it... AND u cant copyright smth thats not urs...

so there

this is a nice way to keep on sharing mp3s... just make a set out of it, and voila


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whiskers
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hooray for liveset ripping/trading!!! what the hell is up with audiogalaxy blocking livesets anyway? bastards!
hey, what about livesets that were released on cds? say, magik 6? global underground cds?


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Spad
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Registered: Jun 2001
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You can't legally distribute/sell livesets any more then you can full singles/albums. The only difference is that no companies can be arsed to try and stop it when there's mp3 trading of their singles/albums to worry about. As far as livesets are concerned, there's not really one company that's got an interest in them.

I mean, if I got a load of brand new movies and broadcast them one after the other (skillfully mixing the credits into the next film) then made copies of the broadcast it wouldn't suddenly become copyright free and OK for me to flog them down the market.

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Widget
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Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Johannebsurg, South Africa

Livesets are definitely copywritten. It's as illegal to d/l and distribute live sets as it is to distribute and d/l mp3 singles.

The difference being that a lot of DJs/producers/record companies don't know that livesets are being distributed. I know this because I have asked PvD about them in an official interview - if you want to read the interview, let me know and I'll pass on the link. He even discusses what he thinks about live set distribution afterwards.

As for vinyl - vinyl are also copywritten, theoretically everytime a DJ plays a vinyl he/she is supposed to pay the creater a fee. However, in practise it doesn't happen, but in theory it should. It's also illegal to cop a vinyl in the same way as a CD. It is not legal to copy a vinyl to any format, whether it be to CD, tape, mp3 or even to another vinyl using a cutter. goldenarmZ consider this your slap.

So everyone who tells themselves that d/ling livesets if fine because they aren't copywritten and it's not illegal - Don't kid yourself.

I've discussed this with lawyers before, so it's pretty correct.

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JM
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Originally posted by Widget
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The difference being that a lot of DJs/producers/record companies don't know that livesets are being distributed. I know this because I have asked PvD about them in an official interview - if you want to read the interview, let me know and I'll pass on the link. He even discusses what he thinks about live set distribution afterwards.
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i think livesets could greatly popularize a dj, but many ppl such as myself listen to livesets, and dont have a need for cd's usually, so maybe the DJ's/Producers cd sales may be jeopardized a bit... dunno..

>JM<

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