I just listened to this radio show of a local DJ playing, his show was called "Industrial Revolution", but to me alot of the songs sounded very trance like. It seems there there is a certain subset of Industrial music that sounds like what I would call "dark trance" although I am pretty sure that the industrial crowd does not call it that. I was wondering if any of you all know what the proper title is for the trance-like stuff that the industrial crowd listens to. I managed to get a tracklist of the guy's set, I know it is pretty random and stuff is scattered across several genres, the stuff I am interested in it the electronic 4/4 beat style that sounds alot like trance minus the pussy appeal.

Here is the tracklist:
2:04PM Front Line Assembly Colombian Necktie
1:59PM Front 242 Melt
1:53PM Pig Sanctuary [Spent Sperm Mix]
1:48PM Sister Machine Gun Better than Me
1:45PM My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult Disco FleshPot
1:36PM Assemblage 23 Opened
1:34PM Bile I reject
1:30PM Rammstein Ich Will
1:25PM Laibach Du Bist Unser
1:20PM Wumpscut Angel
1:14PM Rob Zombie Superbeast
1:12PM Apoptygma Berzerk Deep Red
1:04PM Nitzer Ebb Join in the Chant
1:01PM Oomph!!!!! Eiszeit
12:57PM Nine Inch Nails Sin
12:57PM KMFDM Free Your Hate
12:56PM kmfdm drug against war (razed in black rmx)
12:50PM Recycle Or I will kill you
12:41PM coil Love's Secret Domain
12:39PM funker vogt fortunes of war
12:31PM 16 volt everyday everything
12:28PM ministry lay lady lay
12:27PM prick I apologise
12:19PM rorshach test fornicator
12:17PM download glassblower
12:10PM slick idiot forgive me
12:05PM Sparta Mye
12:01PM John Vanderslice Continuation
11:55AM ...Trail of Dead It Was There That I Saw You

The songs I enjoyed were "columbia necktie" "opened" "deep red" "druga against war" and several others, can somebody please help me find the category of industrial that resembles trance music?

Last edited by Zombie0915 on Sep-24-2005 at 18:26

Damn thats an awesome group of songs. I dont think youll find any industrial trance or at least what i think your looking for. But if you can check out Dave Clarke's Essential Mix from Spring 2004. Its a fucking sick techno/industrial set. If you liked some of those songs youll love this set.

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It's called EBM. Electronic Body Music. Precursor to GOA trance by the way. Also "futurepop" is a more recent name or outgrowing from EBM, came about in the early-mid 90's I suppose. VNV Nation, Icon Of Coil, Apoptygma Berzerk, Assemblage 23, Juno Reactor, Cabaret Voltaire, Yello, Coil, KMFDM...well you know...just look up the artists on that playlist.

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Last edited by Aiwendil on Sep-24-2005 at 18:36

I will gladly give it a try, but are you sure there is no name for the more dancey subset of industrial, I find that if I looks for industrial in searching I find songs that have guitars and screaming, but I want the electronic type, if I am looking for that particular style how do I find it, what term do I search under?

edit: just saw yer post aweindil, can you recomend some really energetic trancey and recent(stuff that I might hear a DJ play in a party these days) EBM tunes?

edit2: gawd damn you are some sort of mind reader I saw yer edit right after I submitted mine, gracias

Last edited by Zombie0915 on Sep-24-2005 at 18:42

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Originally posted by Aiwendil It's called EBM. Electronic Body Music.

FRONT 242

they are the "fathers" of this electronic subgenre.


then I suggest also to check sth by Catharsis for industrial

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check out Bigod 20 - The Bog and maybe even some Skinny Puppy

definitely Front 242 - Headhunter, fucken classic in my book.

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what exactly is meant by...
electronic body music?

I've found this:


Electronic body music (EBM) is a musical genre combining elements of industrial music and electronic dance music. The genre's early influences run the gamut from the noisy industrial music of the time (Throbbing Gristle, Psychic TV) to the Radical Dance scene (Portion Control, 400 Blows) and straight-ahead electronic music (Kraftwerk, DAF).

The term was coined by the Belgian band Front 242 in the early 1980s to describe their music, and they are considered the first EBM band. Through the 1980s and early 1990s the style was characterized by harsh and often sparse electronic beats and became popular in the underground club scene, particularly in Europe. In this early period the most important labels were the European PIAS and Antler-Subway and the North American Wax Trax!; early bands besides Front 242 were Die Krupps, Nitzer Ebb, Borghesia, Neon Judgement, The Weathermen, Klinik, à;GRUMH..., Skinny Puppy, Severed Heads and, Front Line Assembly, among others.

By the mid 1990s, EBM began to borrow more and more heavily from synthpop, with the early releases of such bands as Covenant, and VNV Nation combining harsh industrial beats with synthesizer-driven melodies. By the late 1990s many of these middle-era EBM bands (notably VNV Nation and Covenant) were moving more and more towards synthpop, leading to some confusion and debate over the meaning of the term "EBM." While the term is still debated between "purists" who prefer to apply it to music more reminiscent of 1980s-era Front 242 (the term Old-school EBM is often used for this particular reason) and fans of a more modern style who allow for less adherence to its industrial heritage, today the term typically is used to refer to a sound similar to that of the middle-era bands. In any case, the genre is distinguished from modern interpretations of synthpop and the recent new style known as futurepop by the retention of some degree of harshness and industrial elements.

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from discogs,i gather? but i've never heard of that term, and i've listened to some industrial for 15 years. probably never got legs cos it sounds ridiculous.

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Never got legs? Hah. EBM isn't industrial music, EBM is EBM. You probably never heard of it because you're ignorant. I mean, regardless of what you have or have not heard, the term has been around since at least 1988.

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Last edited by Aiwendil on Sep-25-2005 at 18:47

***shakes fist***

i hardly think that one or several cd titles with "EBM" a genre make.

only guys/gals that make music an academic exercise are probably the only ones that might even use this genre title. genre titles develop when consensus by music listeners develops from the underground or a when a major sponsor such as a big music company, radio station, or group coins it and this lead to a consensus by7 the masses. in this case, F242 coins it. but the second element is missing, and that's probably why i've never heard it.


this is what i found on a quick search:

i typed "EBM" in discogs and only got back 7 results.
i "electronic body music" in disocgs and only got back 10 results.

i typed "EBM" in amazon and only got back 10 results.
i "electronic body music" in amazon and only got back 8 results (and one was trance).


compare that to:

i typed "industrial" in discogs and got back 164 results.
i typed "industrial" in amazon and got back 3031 results.


in any case, even if EBM is a genre (a very dubious proposition), i'de think that it would fall under industrial. logcially, all ebm is indusrial, but not all industrial is ebm.



i'd just call it industrial and be done with it. to be on the safe side, next time i go to my usual record stores, i'll ask for the EBM section.

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bah, i gotta go. i'll keep this topic in mind tho and i'll probably go to store tonight if i get a chance.

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