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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Read This! The Hypocracy of Hillary...

Not that I'm complaining since she's now asking for lighter security with the Canadian border and us being able to go to the U.S. sans passport, but why ask for tighter security with the Mexican border at the same time??
Are they scarier than us?

Isn't the Mexican / U.S. border pretty much a military no man's land as it is? (Yes, I'm exaggerating)


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Don't the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants come from Mexico? It's not an issue of race, it's an issue of statistics, surely?


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pkcRAISTLIN
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^^ drugs as well perhaps?


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metalgearsolid
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: For you neo/

Theres a lot of people and drugs that come from the Southern bordor. The bordor is in need of reinforcement because terrorists can come through thier and I also heard many of the new OC gangs come through thier. So I would not blame hiliary or call her a hypocrite.

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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid
Theres a lot of people and drugs that come from the Southern bordor. The bordor is in need of reinforcement because terrorists can come through thier and I also heard many of the new OC gangs come through thier. So I would not blame hiliary or call her a hypocrite.


That's easy to assume yes, however, a lot of smuggling traffic does come from Canada as well.
You may be unaware of the number of seizers they make at the Akesasne Mohawk Reserve at the St. Lawrence River near Cornwall, Ont.
>>Source<<

Or the record ecstasy bust drug bust (500,000 pills) that they just did at the Ontario-Michigan border worth $9.9 Million.
>>Source<<

Or the finding of a secret drug tunnel they just found in late Aug. of this year between B.C. and Washington. >>Source<<

Needless to say, we aren't exactly innocent up here. There are forces out there that are (and have been) taking advantage of lax border security and the friendship between us.

More to the point, I haven't even begun to explore the human trafficking of indeterminate terrorists...


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That is true. The Canadian border is SO VERY open. The official checkpoints. I know some family friends in Valhalla, which is 15 miles from the border. If you know the township roads well one can get to or from Canada very easily.

The border with Canada is much larger than with Mexico. The major problem is that it is such a massive border. And do not forget Alaska as well. The Great Lakes amd the Rio Grande provide a great natural barrier, but there are still boats. The Landed Border between the U.S. and Canada is much larger than the U.S.-Mexican Border. Also in comparison the Canadian border is less populated compared to the Mexican border. People could pass through Washington, Idaho, Montana, North Dakota and Minnesota very easly due to the low population density.

Just look:

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metalgearsolid
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Registered: Apr 2005
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I know Canadians are not innocent of bad behaviour. But the Canadian government is not as corrupt as the Mexican government and you would surely not get a bunch of cartel gangs firing RPGs at the law enforcement.

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arnoldjch
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Most of you are correct in the sense regarding the drug issue. But i ask you all this, Can terrorist use the Canadian border to cross and enter U.S territory? I bet they can. Clearly the Mexican border is more secure than the Canadian, so for that reason any terrorist can fly from a ME country to Canada and then cross the border with any hazzling like the Mexicans do then they cross the Mexican border. I feel that this is another issue. Clearly no terrorist can come legaly through the U.S and then pass INS inspection to enter the country they are not idiots and wont do that, so they are looking through other ways to enter U.S territory as i mentioned this might be one of the issues that tighter security will be implemented in the Canadia border.

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St_Andrew
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Registered: May 2003
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I guess it's a lot easier for terrorists to go through Mexico rather than Canada since it's a lot easier to get into Mexico with "your stuff" than it is to Canada. Also the whole issue with illegal immigrants, and also the fact that the Canadian border is so fucking long.

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DrUg_Tit0
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance I know some family friends in Valhalla


Hehe, now why do I have the feeling that most of the population there should be of scandinavian descent..


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LiquidX
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Registered: Mar 2001
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IF you guys only knew how corrupt mexico is then that sure answer your question. If you ever go to Mexico City.. you will know what I mean. The police, everything.. while Canada is the contrary. Is about the statistics and relality. And its kinda crazy about the lighting things up on the Canadian side, since the terrorists actually entered from there.


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metalgearsolid
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Registered: Apr 2005
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Trust me LiquidX I know how corrupt Mexico is. My grandfather was a supreme court Judge in Mexico and several of my uncles are judges, they have a lot of power. They always tell me that Mexican police and judges are extremely corrupt. However that does not mean that they are all bad people...I mean I am sure Croatia or Chile has just as much corruption as mexico.?
But I don't believe if the Terrorists tried to pass through the Mex/US bordor they would succede. Most undocumented immigrants get caught and tagged. Anyway there will be more to come later right now I am trying to do my math hw.

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