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Alekos
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Logic 7 vs Cubase SX3

Logic 7 vs Cubase SX 3
Which on is better?
Why?

I've been a Logic user for 3 years. I just wanted to know what are the differences between them, and why one "is" better than the other
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Dj Thy
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Well that's a debate that's being going on for long (Logic vs Cubase) and that will be going on for a long time still.

In my opinion there is no better option. Some people will prefer Cubase, others will prefer Logic. It's all about your workflow.

But there are differences that can be significant to ones decision.

Logic 7 :
- Mac only (that'll be the most decisive factor for 80% of the people)
- Steep learning curve
- Integrates well with other stuff from Mac, as it's being made by Apple now (import apple loops, integration with Garageband etc...)
- Pretty impressive bundle of plugins (and pretty good in quality too)
- Much more versatile routing than Cubase
- For people owning TDM or HD Protools hardware : can serve as a GUI for the DAE system (use the Protools engine, DSP included, but with Logic as a frontend. Still some problems with it though).

Cubase SX 3 :
- Mac and PC, although from experience I can say the PC version is much more stable and responsive than the Mac version (I work with both on a daily basis, so I should know)
- Compared to Logic, the basic operations are much more intuitive
- Honestly, pretty crappy bundle of plugins
- Kinda rigid routing (bussing is very limited in SX)
- VST is still a strong standard. Audio Unit is pretty big too, but there's still more stuff to find in the VST format.
- In my view Cubase (and Nuendo even more) is a little bit more suited for postproduction (especially music to video). Not that Logic can't do it properly, but Cubase is more intuitive in that respect.

Reading back the points, it seems like Logic is the big winner here. But it all comes down to workflow. I work with both programs on a daily basis, and although I can work pretty fine in Logic, I find myself doing the same stuff on Cubase much quicker (agreed, on PC). But that doesn't mean you will.

Seeing you are a Logic user for some years, it probably means your a Mac user too. On that platform I'd choose Logic any day. Another point in that favor is you already know how to work in Logic. Cubase uses a pretty different interface, so that's another way of working you should aquire again.

But don't dismiss other sequencers that fast. Cubase and Logic are still the two most common, but there are others that are pretty good too. In my opinion, it's not only for the features that you should base your decision on, but also on stability and workflow.

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Phantax
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Thy pointed out the differences perfectly.

Cubase = what you see is what you get
Logic = what you think is what you can create

Im not talking about music but about routing, configuration of the program, it's flexibiliy etc etc.

Logic is like clay..you can mold it into whatever you want. Cubase is like steel. What you have is what you have to deal with. Logic is much more flexible and it's midi implementation is the best around. Working with Audio is better/easier in Cubase but not higher quality. For a program that is called Logic "Audio" its kind of a joke on the Audio side.

Ive been a Logic user for about 3 years now PC only. This program was so ahead of its time that it still works perfectly with every plugin released these days. I dont have any trouble with it at all. I wont move over to mac until Logic 8 comes out.

There's no point in being curious about another sequencer if you're using any of the best sequencers right now. If you cant make music with the program you have now then you wont be able to make music with another. Same goes for if you can make music. Its not gonna sound better if you move to another sequencer. Or be easier. If youve spent 3 years learning how to use 1 program then there would be no point at all to switch and go through that type of learning process again. Cubase and Logic are the 2 best sequencers on the market. Whichever 1 you choose first stick with it forever. You cant go wrong with either.

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Alekos
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Very interesting Thank you
Just so you guys know, there's a copy of Logic 7 coming out for PC


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quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
Just so you guys know, there's a copy of Logic 7 coming out for PC


i don't think so.. since logic is owned by apple..

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quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
Just so you guys know, there's a copy of Logic 7 coming out for PC


Interesting, how do you know this?

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Alekos
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quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
i don't think so.. since logic is owned by apple..


lol... iPod is also owned by Apple, isn't it?

Trust me, There'll be a copy of Logic for PC


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quote:
Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
lol... iPod is also owned by Apple, isn't it?

Trust me, There'll be a copy of Logic for PC


at least not the next 5 years.. why should they discontinue logic for pc and then support it 4 years later again?!

if logic would still be owned by emagic we would still see a pc version.. but already one year ago some people said it will be released for pc again but nothing happened..

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quote:
Originally posted by thecYrus
at least not the next 5 years.. why should they discontinue logic for pc and then support it 4 years later again?!

if logic would still be owned by emagic we would still see a pc version.. but already one year ago some people said it will be released for pc again but nothing happened..


I think it is common sense for them to do so, do you even know how many costumers they have lost because of this dumb step to mac only. The sales of logic have declined a lot since they banned the average pc from their support list. A lot of money can be made by re-introducing logic to the 'normal' pc. And in the end, money is all it comes down to.


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quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
I think it is common sense for them to do so, do you even know how many costumers they have lost because of this dumb step to mac only. The sales of logic have declined a lot since they banned the average pc from their support list. A lot of money can be made by re-introducing logic to the 'normal' pc. And in the end, money is all it comes down to.

But a lot of former pc users buy Mac in order to use Logic, i think much more money can be made this way...

I think that was also the big idea behind apple's takeover of emagic, they wanted to increase mac sales

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