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shaolin_Z
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Thumbs down US militray bloodlust

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On Friday, May 23rd, the nationwide, public radio and television show Democracy Now! premiered Afghan Massacre: The Convoy of Death, a controversial documentary film alleging U.S. military involvement in a massacre of Taliban prisoners in Afghanistan. The film, never before shown in the U.S., aired during the Friday broadcast of Democracy Now!, at 9 a.m. EST. Afghan Massacre: the Convoy of Death has been broadcast on national television in Britain, Germany, Italy and Australia and has been screened by the European parliament.

Produced and directed by Irish filmmaker and former BBC producer Jamie Doran, the film tells the story of thousands of prisoners who surrendered to the US military’s Afghan allies after the siege of Kunduz. According to the film, some three thousand of the prisoners were forced into sealed containers and loaded onto trucks for transport to Sheberghan prison. When the prisoners began shouting for air, U.S.-allied Afghan soldiers fired directly into the truck, killing many of them. The rest suffered through an appalling road trip lasting up to four days, so thirsty they clawed at the skin of their fellow prisoners as they licked perspiration and even drank blood from open wounds.

Witnesses say that when the trucks arrived and soldiers opened the containers, most of the people inside were dead. They also say US Special Forces re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert and stood by as survivors were shot and buried. Now, up to three thousand bodies lie buried in a mass grave.

Outraged human rights groups and lawyers are calling for an investigation but the U.N. special envoy to Afghanistan refuses any U.N.-backed investigation until the Afghan government can protect witnesses. Two of the witnesses in the film have already been killed.


Source: Democracy Now!


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metalgearsolid
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The Afghan government will not be able to protect the witnessess. All what the UN is waiting for is for all the witnesses to die.

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Lepanto
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boo hoo.


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metalgearsolid
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boo hoo.

What is wrong you do not care about this? If you do not noticed the US government always bitches about what the Germans did at the battle of the bulge and they only killed 90americans(?). Here you have Americans killing 2k thats a lot of peeps. SO I am guessing that you believe an arab life is less important than a white persons life?

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Mabye he's boo-hooing because it came from a left-wing website akin to democraticunderground.com.

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Alex
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I think that's where the boohoo came from aswell.


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metalgearsolid
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Alright so maybe he was boo-hooing about that sorry about the confusion.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Mabye he's boo-hooing because it came from a left-wing website akin to democraticunderground.com.

What? So it never really happened? Man, that's a load off my mind - for a moment there I thought that US soldiers in exceptional circumstances were as monstrous people as soldiers of other nationalities. You know, that they're no better than any other young psychos - germans, afghani, or what have you. Glad to be proven wrong.
Thanks for your highly demonstrative "boo hoo", Lepanto. I'll never fall for shallow reasoning and evidence again. I promise.

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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
Mabye he's boo-hooing because it came from a left-wing website akin to democraticunderground.com.


That and the accusation is unsubstantiated.
Knowing the left-leaning media, they would been all over this like a fat kid on a smartie otherwise; regardless if there was any substance to it or not, that shit sells!


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shaolin_Z
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I find it interesting and disgusting how people so easily dismiss something as "right" or "left" so they can continue to hold on to their delusional world views. So unless your source isn't BBC or the Washington Post or some other relatively mainstream media outlet it's automatically false? It's sad how conditioned so many of us are.


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first of the boo hoo comment was a tad sarcastic. second of all arabs ARE white LOL. middle eastern people are considered caucasion if you didn't know or realize this before.

furthermore, this is taken from a "left" wing site but it doesn't change the event itself, even though it was prolly blown out of proportion.

However, I fail to see how this is a HUGE deal that will change the course of history or whatnot. Even though i think when someone surrenders they are entitled to their own rights, something that THEY don't believe in aka beheadings, burning bodies, etc.


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Trancer-X
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Originally posted by shaolin_Z
I find it interesting and disgusting how people so easily dismiss something as "right" or "left" so they can continue to hold on to their delusional world views. So unless your source isn't BBC or the Washington Post or some other relatively mainstream media outlet it's automatically false? It's sad how conditioned so many of us are.


Cold, callous, conditioned - and desensitized to the plights of fellow human beings.


Anyway, the one word that best describes the behavior which is displayed by many killers is psychopath. It would seem as though we have an abundance of them in our society - as well as the military.



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In the UK, the Mental Health Act 1983 defines a psychopathic disorder as a persistent disorder or disability of the mind (whether or not including significant impairment of intelligence) which results in abnormally aggressive or severely irresponsible conduct. We now have a much clearer picture of the psychopath following research by Professor Robert Hare, head of psychology at the University of British Columbia in Canada. His conclusions, after years of study, are that psychopathy is probably not a mental disorder and is unlikely to respond to treatment. His findings have great significance for police and for those responsible for supervising offenders both in custody and in the community. Hare believes that psychopathic killers are not mad in the strict psychiatric or legal sense but behave in a cold and deliberate way with scant regard to the feelings of their victims.

http://www.janes.com/security/law_e...i/ipi0170.shtml

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