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djsphere
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Registered: Apr 2003
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Native Instruments Traktor DJ Studio 3

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mikey_p
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Registered: Sep 2005
Location: Cornwall, England

wot no demo? how can anyone crack it if they haven't released a demo?!

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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

Haha, anyone else get a kick out of this?

"Some of the most thrilling new features are the expansion from 2 to 4 playback decks and an emulation of the new, much sought-after Allen & Heath Xone:92™ 4-channel club mixer."

Look at the screenshots. HOW does that emulate the Xone 92, other than the words "Xone 92" being on the screen...

Old Post Sep-23-2005 13:09  United States
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tvmann
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Registered: Jul 2003
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They have an arrangement with Allen & Heath to make the Traktor software mixer sound and work like the real 92. First beta testers are reporting excellent audio quality from this software mixer emulation.

Traktor v3 also can be set to emulate an Ecler Nuo4 mixer and possibly a Pioneer DJM600.

DJs can of course alternately use a "real" external mixer, as with previous Traktor versions.

Even the software mixer in the current version of Traktor is pretty decent, you can use kill switches totally knock out each of the EQ bands, according to what I've read not many "real" mixers can do that. But the Xone:92 emulation sounds better.

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Haha, anyone else get a kick out of this?

"Some of the most thrilling new features are the expansion from 2 to 4 playback decks and an emulation of the new, much sought-after Allen & Heath Xone:92™ 4-channel club mixer."

Look at the screenshots. HOW does that emulate the Xone 92, other than the words "Xone 92" being on the screen...

Last edited by tvmann on Sep-23-2005 at 17:08

Old Post Sep-23-2005 16:59  Canada
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Ryan0751
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Emulating the features of a mixer in SW is fine, but to say it actually emulates the hardware is ridiculous. Unless is comes with an actual Xone:92 it's not the same

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Originally posted by tvmann
They have an arrangement with Allen & Heath to make the Traktor software mixer sound and work like the real 92. First beta testers are reporting excellent audio quality from this software mixer emulation.

Traktor v3 also can be set to emulate an Ecler Nuo4 mixer and possibly a Pioneer DJM600.

DJs can of course alternately use a "real" external mixer, as with previous Traktor versions.

Even the software mixer in the current version of Traktor is pretty decent, you can use kill switches totally knock out each of the EQ bands, according to what I've read not many "real" mixers can do that. But the Xone:92 emulation sounds better.

Old Post Sep-23-2005 17:21  United States
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superglo
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it seems a lil cluttered to me but still


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tvmann
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Location: near Vancouver, Canada

They didn't say "it actually emulates the hardware" - you did.

They said it emulates the Xone:92. They've done this jointly with Allen & Heath and with their approval of the results. There is an announcement on the A&H site http://www.xone.co.uk/news-stories.asp

It's likely the real A&H mixer is partly based on software running in DSP chips - high-end hardware mixers aren't just little amplifiers and analog circuits anymore.

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Emulating the features of a mixer in SW is fine, but to say it actually emulates the hardware is ridiculous. Unless is comes with an actual Xone:92 it's not the same

Last edited by tvmann on Sep-23-2005 at 21:48

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Ryan0751
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA

Emulates the Xone:92, Xone:92 is hardware, you make the correlation

I'm sure that Allen & Heath agreed to do it because it's free marketing for them.

I just think it's funny! But hey if it works, then great.

As for the REAL A&H mixer, there are no DSP chips in that baby. It's all high-end analog circuitry, which is one reason why it's so expensive.

Check out this link: Xone 92 Block Diagram

High end analog mixers sounds fantastic, while cheap analog mixers sound terrible. Mid-priced digital mixers sit in between.

There is no way that the Traktor filters sound as good as the VCF filters on an actual Xone, although they probably work the same.

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Originally posted by tvmann
They didn't say "it actually emulates the hardware" - you did.

They said it emulates the Xone:92. They've done this jointly with Allen & Heath and with their approval of the results.

It's likely the real A&H mixer is partly based on software running in DSP chips - high-end hardware mixers aren't just little amplifiers and analog circuits anymore.

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r5a
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Toronto

Fucking sweet.

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trancecadet
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: UK

Ive been using traktor since version 1. Im so glad they have FINALLY decided to implement another 2 sources. My dream come true!! Virtual 4 deck mixing


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jupiterone
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Registered: Dec 2004
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looks very nice even though i dont do virtual

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Omega_Blue
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: Gone

i like this a lot.

Old Post Sep-24-2005 18:35  United States
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