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Originally posted by xstalkrx I just got an old Quicksilver vinyl in the mail. It was covered in dust. I gruv-glided it 3 times. When I play the record I get a lot of, what sounds like, static pops for a couple of minutes on the record. Is this problem called surface noise or what? I cleaned the record real well, are there any other solutions?

old as used? then it's just worn out. what you are discribing sounds like record that was poorly cared for. probably the only care the previous owner gave the record was just cleaning the dust bunnies off the needle half way through the song.

also, what condition is the cleaning pad, or what ever you are using to clean the vinyl???

my gruvglide pads now reside in the trash. all they were doing was replacing the dust w/the felt from the pad. so my needles were still gunking up, after being wiped w/the pads.

so if they are old, replace them.

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Originally posted by sr126 old as used? then it's just worn out. what you are discribing sounds like record that was poorly cared for. probably the only care the previous owner gave the record was just cleaning the dust bunnies off the needle half way through the song.

so all the popping sounds are from bad grooves and there is nothing i can do?

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Originally posted by xstalkrx so all the popping sounds are from bad grooves and there is nothing i can do?

pretty much. belive it or not... the friction caused by the record moving under needle creates enough heat to litterally bake/cook dust, and debris into the groove of a record.

all you can do now, is just enjoy what you have, and start looking for a better copy.

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Originally posted by sr126 pretty much. belive it or not... the friction caused by the record moving under needle creates enough heat to litterally bake/cook dust, and debris into the groove of a record. all you can do now, is just enjoy what you have, and start looking for a better copy.

hmmm so no brushes are designed to dig into the groove and remove it?

oh and on one side when the needle gets to a certain point it actually skips and loops. like it keeps playing the same section of the record over and over again. WTF!

Last edited by xstalkrx on Nov-17-2005 at 07:30

you can only clean what's not baked in. all you can do now is preserve the way it sounds right now.

there isn't a way (that i know of) to reverse the damage/wear caused by the previous owner of the record. i know, this sucks.

i can't tell you how much money i have spent (or how much it bugs me) on back up copies of a song, only to find that it sounds worse that the record i'm trying to back up. :-(...

i hope you didn't pay a premium price for it.


for the looping part... you might want to play w/the tone arm settings. maybe a little more/less wieght on the stylus, maybe a little anti skate. how's the hight on your tonearm?

also, there may be some crap on the record that hasn't been removed by the gruvglide. sometimes there's stuff (maybe remnants of a spilled drink or something) that is caked on the record, and leaves a film, causing the needle to skip because film is occuping the space in the groove that needle would track.

I just adjusted my tonearm again.

When I watch the needle play on any record, I notice it sways slightly from side to side. Is this normal?

also, the groove might be physically damaged. -play w/the tone arm settings. maybe you may find a setting that will allow the needle to stay in the groove and continue playing the song.

what turntable are you using?

if you're using a crappy, and/or straight arm. try playing the record on a TT w/ S-shaped arm. like techs.

i have a stanton str8-50 beltdrive. it has a straight arm. no adjustments to anti-skate, or hight. i have several records that the stanton won't play till the end. once the needle gets close the center. even though there are still a couple of minutes left on the track. it just gets to a certain point, and the arm will bounce back/away from the center toward the outside. yet these records play just fine on the gemini (S-shape arm) and technics. i had this same problem w/a numark straight arm -i don't remember what modle it was. just that it was numarks entry level DD. the first thing i did was play a record that the stanton couldn't play, and it did the exact same thing at the same place amazingly enough. i returned it a couple of days later.

check you pm's.

it's normal for it to wiggle a little bit, because sometimes the groove get's squiggley. -the groove is rarely completely straight, or circular -you know what i mean... sometimes when there's a lot of bass, you can see the needle/cart vibrate.

ill def try to get a hold of you tomm...

maybe i should try something crazy...like heating the record up...and then trying to gruv glide it. couldnt hurt to try i guess.

maybe not that 'crazy'...

you'll probably end up warping the record if you heat it up too much.