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almar
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Exclamation convert AUDIO to MIDI

Hey , I was wondering if you know a good program for converting audio to midi because I've tryied some programs but they were rubbish.

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IMO the program sucks, but try it
The best way is make by ear.

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Audio and MIDI are apples and oranges, you can't "convert" one to the other because they have nothing to do with each other.

There are some programs that try to "guess" the MIDI note by guessing the pitch of a sample, but as you pointed out, they are rubbish.


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personally i don't see the benifit of doing this? why not use a sampler that will record midi data of the audio sample loaded up.

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groundzero74
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personally i don't see the benifit of doing this? why not use a sampler that will record midi data of the audio sample loaded up.


? i really don't understan what you are trying to say here, is this another method ? If yes , explain further !


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yes, well the mistake is commonly made isnt it. MIDI does NOT equal music notation. Midi isnt a music note. Its only a signal. Its the information that tells the host what trigger is being held down and for how long and how hard and where in the range of keys it is and if there is after touch and... blah blah blah.
Haven't we done this a million times?
Still.. as mentioned MIDI can't be converted to audio or vice versa because it isnt the same thing. Clear?


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If i understand correctly, you're describing a program that could recognize the audio signal and translate it to MIDI note. This would be almost an equivalent of OCR (optical character recognition) for text. So, say someone faxes you a letter and your program has to guess what's typed in it by translating images to text. The problem with this, as with any other program that tries to guess like a human - there's very limited amount of AI power available to us now. As much as Steven Spielberg would love you to believe that computers will be able to substitute humans and become indistinguishable, the truth of the matter is that in order for computers to think like humans, humans have to program computers to be smarter than them.

I just can't fathom the ammount of programming that would be involved with teaching computer to recognizing distinct frequencies, note the pitch and distinguish a note progression from other sounds blended into the track. Of course, if you take a simple melody using single notes - that would be relatively easy to program. but today's music is much more complex and unless you have something simple, I doubt you'll find any programs that would be capable of doing that.

so, use your head and just rip off other's people work by hearing ;-)

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Re: convert AUDIO to MIDI

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Originally posted by almar
Hey , I was wondering if you know a good program for converting audio to midi because I've tryied some programs but they were rubbish.


Melodyne is a program which is pretty good at this. You do need to have dry melodies as reverbs and delays (and I guess drum beats too) tend to get the program off track.


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Re: Re: convert AUDIO to MIDI

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Melodyne is a program which is pretty good at this. You do need to have dry melodies as reverbs and delays (and I guess drum beats too) tend to get the program off track.


Hey. This is true. Melodyne is VERY VERY nice. Its quite easy to use and has a beautiful formant preservation algorithm. It detects the pitch of a sample and then you can edit it on a piano roll style editor. You can change the pitch, the formant, the length of the splits, the splits and the pitch waving among a lot of other things. The sample needs to be dry (for the most part) and it needs to be an a capella. Works great on vocals and some funky synth effects.

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almar
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Ok , have to try this Melodyne . THANKXX

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