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Ca_S_ey
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Ohio(us)
Gun control debate

Perhaps only armymen should have guns. Unfortunately, there will always be people that illegally have guns in society, that are much more difficult to control. If firearms are to be banned, only the military and some criminals would have them, leaving law abiding citizens more vulnerable, and at a disadvantage. A criminal will be more likely to attack someone if they know they don't have a gun because they abide the law after such a law has been passed, and crime may very well rise.


what does everyone think?

Case

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NucleuzBoy
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: San Francisco

yeah i heard about this stuff, i think it is going to be kinda impossible to control it everywhere.
from my own experiences , i work with ppl in computer systems and most of them are gun owners.

but they should definately stop it from selling in stores, it should be used by militaries only.

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Dj O'Callaghan
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Northampton UK

Yeah in the UK there are no guns sold apart from low calibre rifles and double barrel shotguns, and to purchase them you need a firearms license which here involves a lot of checking into the person. If your caught with a firearm a have no license its a 3 year prison sentence, but you can still obtain firearms its very hard, I know of people who have got guns or so I've heard own them and not crappy pistols I'm talking things like AK47s, but weather its believable is another thing but it wouldn't suprise me because these people are dodgy. Here in the Uk some crooks buy deactivated guns for about 300 quid you can get an AK47 500 an M16, MP5s and all sorts, a lot of people know blokes who can refit firing pins and make ammo like an underworld gunsmith thats how some of the heavy stuff hits our streets but its rare because finding a crooked gunsmith in a pubs a different story you need contacts, also theres arm dealers who get the crooks guns, theres occasional stories about them in Newspaper and people getting shot and stuff.

I don't know how you guys can sort out guns, make strict laws to make people hand them in, send in police teams to overturn dodgy criminal suburbs of cities and conviscate and arrest people, it would be very hard to pull that off endless police resources would be used, and if someone hasn't got a gun and they want to kill they'll use a knife or an axe, we've had some simular incidents to your gun nut killings here in the UK of people walking into to places and stabbing groups of people, there was one guy once who walked into to a church naked with a samurai sword and started hacking at people, armed police killed him in the end. But when you've got a gun its easier to kill people, I think it would lower your crime rate by loads but well connected villians would get guns like the mob. a simple street corner drug dealer though wouldn't have a gun, nor would small street gangs, but to obtain guns from them people in a snatch operation you would need a law for gun control and also an army of cops to besiege an area creating near enough riots in some places.


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SgtFoo
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vaughan, Canada
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we don't need gun control.... we need bullet control

each bullet of any kind should cost $2000 to $8000.

that would make any1 think twice before shooting someone, thus any1 may have the gun, but few may actually use the gun.... ahaha!

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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Montreal/Canada & Casablanca/Morocco (the ROOTS of TRANCE)

The problem is that in the US everybody (or almost lol) owns a gun , it's part of the local culture , u just can't come and ban them easily . I still think a world without firearms is a better world ... just my two dirhams


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Excite
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Texas

this is predictable...we all know what the europeans and canadians are going to think about this issue.

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Sir. Lunchalot
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Registered: Aug 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Excite
this is predictable...we all know what the europeans and canadians are going to think about this issue.


Yup, and you know we`re right!

So, anybody want to take the "pro firearms" spot?


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jon
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Leeds

Here in Leeds (UK) there has been a load of gun voilence, mainly due to drug dealers muscling in on the current dealears areas. As i speak there is a guy in hospital under armed guard, and last yhear there was about 21 shootings.

The only way to really stop this problem is as SgtFoo said, we need bullet control.

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Rostros
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Registered: Dec 2001
Location: United Kingdom
no no no

PSG Sniper rifle aint a gun its a female's Punani

they should ban BB guns and replace them with AKA47 and MAch11


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Ur Dream Grl
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Registered: Jun 2001
Location: Ft. lauderdale (USA)

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Originally posted by Dj O'Callaghan


I don't know how you guys can sort out guns, make strict laws to make people hand them in, send in police teams to overturn dodgy criminal suburbs of cities and conviscate and arrest people, it would be very hard to pull that off endless police resources would be used, and if someone hasn't got a gun and they want to kill they'll use a knife or an axe


trueeeeeee


If a law is being passed banning guns from citizens, it makes sense that knives would have to be banned as well. Not just that, but anything that could somehow be concieved as a weapon. As many people say commonly, guns (or knives) are not what kill people, people kill people.An argument can be taken that guns have no purpose but to kill, which is a very good point, but the problem still exists of people having the means to equally defend themself from someone else with such a weapon that has obtained it illegally.

I agree, one crime committed with the use of a firearm is too many, but banning "ALL" guns isn't the answer.

When crimes are committed with a gun, the liberals love to point to the tool and not to the perpetrator. It would be like a police officer pulling a car over for speeding and ticketing the car and not the driver.

So , in my opinion...When a criminal has committed an "Illegal" crime with a firearm, quick and SEVERE punishment should be brought against them . Just don't punish ME for their actions.

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Tony Morello
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Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

gun control means using both hands


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STi_WRX02
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada

In my opinion, banning guns and bb guns(Airsoft) isn't the answer. Yes it might get some of the guns off the streets but if u look at the bigger picture, there are so many more guns that aren't accounted for. If the gov't seizes all firearms there will always be illegal firearms on the black market. Personally, guns can save lives. As some people may say "Guns don't kill people, people kill people".


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