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Anyway, they're definitely not in the gov't.

And not that I agree with the guy (nor would I necessarily want to call him a "great man"), but Zbigniew Brzezinski is pretty freakin' bright!

Interview with Zbigniew Brzezinski

President Jimmy Carter's National Security Adviser

Exerpt from Le Nouvel Observateur
January 1998 (taken from: http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BRZ110A.html)



Question: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs ["From the Shadows"], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?

Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?

B: It isn't quite that. We didn't push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.

Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

B: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic fundamentalism, having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

B: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?

Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.

B: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn't a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.

They're in business. It's simple self-interest: why work in government, spend your time on public policy instead of profit and then have to deal with all the people who hate your ideology when you could work in business, spend your time on your own objectives, and get government pawns to take the heat for your policies?

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Originally posted by Important_Man They're in business. It's simple self-interest: why work in government, spend your time on public policy instead of profit and then have to deal with all the people who hate your ideology when you could work in business, spend your time on your own objectives, and get government pawns to take the heat for your policies?

There's certainly a handful of individuals in our current Federal Government that have successfully worked (and are still working) the public/private and private/public sector transitions. A few that come to mind, Rummy, Cheney, Wolfowitz, etc.

However, despite the fact that we're enveloped in a covetous, bourgeois society, NOT EVERYONE subscribes to the doctrine of self-interest. Although it seems to be a rare few, there are still some altruists out there.

A great boy, soon to be a man...

http://www.virginia.edu/insideuva/2...th_gregory.html

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"So many geniuses of the world have led tragic and peculiar lives, lives of extremes and addictions and depressions and immoralities," his mother observes. "And that's very frightening to us. We want to keep his base as broad as can be so he can talk to anybody and not close down." - Janet Smith (talking about her son Greg) http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...A16604-2002Jan8

Thats a good question that I've actually pondered before. That article was horribly written though. The world is in desperate need of a true leader without any ulterior motives, not afraid to speak their mind, and put those posers to shame.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X A great boy, soon to be a man... http://www.virginia.edu/insideuva/2...th_gregory.html

well at least this genius is out there doing something to help the world, unlike others that are content with using their abilities to play chess

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Originally posted by josh4 well at least this genius is out there doing something to help the world, unlike others that are content with using their abilities to play chess

For sure!

Also, there was another child prodigy that recently killed himself. Very sad.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiheral...on/11183099.htm

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Originally posted by Trancer-X For sure! Also, there was another child prodigy that recently killed himself. Very sad. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiheral...on/11183099.htm

Could you copy and paste the article? It demands visitors to sign up and, well, you know...

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Originally posted by Lira Could you copy and paste the article? It demands visitors to sign up and, well, you know...

he was too busy coloring his font to remember to follow etiquette

tisk tisk

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Originally posted by josh4 he was too busy coloring his font to remember to follow etiquette tisk tisk

While it may take you some serious brainpower to color your font, it's already become second nature to me.

With that being said...
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=miami.com



But I'll paste it anyhow for some of the other slower folks.


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Child prodigy's death leaves kin with questions

The apparent suicide of a 14-year-old child prodigy leaves his family wondering why he is gone.

BY SHARON COHEN

Associated Press

VENANGO, Neb. - He started reading as a toddler, played piano at age 3 and delivered a high school commencement speech in cap and gown when he was 10 -- his eyes barely visible over the lectern.

Brandenn Bremmer was a child prodigy: He composed and recorded music, won piano competitions, breezed through college courses with an off-the-charts IQ and mastered everything from archery to photography, hurtling through life precociously.

Then, Tuesday, Brandenn was found dead in his Nebraska home from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

He was 14. He left no note.

''Sometimes we wonder if maybe the physical, earthly world didn't offer him enough challenges, and he felt it was time to move on and do something great,'' his mother, Patricia Bremmer, said from the family home in Venango, a few miles from the Colorado border.

Brandenn showed no signs of depression, she said. He had just shown his family the art for the cover of his new CD that was about to be released.

He was, according to his family and teachers, an extraordinary blend of fun-loving child and serious adult. He loved Harry Potter and Mozart. He watched cartoons and enjoyed video games but gave classical piano concerts for hundreds of people -- without a hint of stage fright.

`UNPRETENTIOUS'

''He wasn't just talented, he was just a really nice young man,'' said David Wohl, an assistant professor at Colorado State University, where Brandenn studied music after high school. ``He had an easy smile. He really was unpretentious.''

Bremmer -- who writes mysteries and has long raised dogs with her husband, Martin -- said they both knew their son was special from the moment he was born. He was reading when he was 18 months old and entering classical piano competitions by age 4.

''He was born an adult,'' his mother said. ``We just watched his body grow bigger.''

He scored 178 on one IQ test -- a test his mother said he was too bored to finish.

Brandenn was home schooled. By age 6, when many little boys are learning to read, he was ready to tackle high school. He enrolled in the Independent Study High School in Lincoln through the University of Nebraska, taking most of his courses by mail.

''He was such a breath of fresh air,'' recalls Lisa Bourlier, associate principal at the school.

'It's unusual to find a student 6 years old willing to shake hands with adults and say, `Hi, my name is Brandenn, this is what I want to do.' ''

In a college preparatory program, Brandenn took his classes in clusters -- all science at one time, all social studies at another -- and ''zipped through,'' Bourlier said.

FAST LEARNER

His mother said his mind was so facile that if a topic interested him, he could complete a semester's work in 10 days. She sometimes worried she couldn't keep pace with her son's intellect, and the family hired tutors.

At age 10, he became the youngest graduate of his high school, and he delivered a commencement speech, saying he was so unusual he practically ``qualified for the endangered species list.''

Brandenn was taking biology at Mid-Plains Community College in North Platte, Neb., and had recently decided he wanted to become an anesthesiologist. He also studied for years at Colorado State, polishing piano skills that had won him state competitions and a table-full of trophies.

Brandenn turned away from his classical roots and started writing his own New Age-style music, passing on a demo of one piano piece to the musician Yanni at a Nebraska concert. He released a CD called Elements and gave concerts in Colorado and Nebraska. He was booked for a concert in Kansas next year.

His family, meanwhile, wonders why he is gone.

''We're trying to rationalize now,'' his mother said. ''He had this excessive need to help people and teach people. . . . He was so connected with the spiritual world. We felt he could hear people's needs and desires and their cries. We just felt like something touched him that day, and he knew he had to leave'' to save others.

Patricia Bremmer said in the days since her son's death, she and others have felt his presence. Her husband, she said, was comforted to find a message under his computer mouse pad their son had written six years ago: ``I love you dad. No matter what happens, I'll always love you."