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josh4
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Judge Clears Way for Border Fence b/w US - Mexico



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Judge Clears Way for Border Fence

By ELLIOT SPAGAT, Associated Press WriterMon Dec 12,10:32 PM ET

A federal judge on Monday lifted the final legal barrier to completing a border fence meant to thwart illegal immigrants in the southwestern corner of the U.S.

The project comprises 14 miles of additional fencing in San Diego. In September, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff waived all laws and legal challenges to building the final 3 1/2-mile leg through coastal wetlands to the Pacific Ocean.

The Sierra Club and other environmental groups had argued that Chertoff lacked the authority to do what he did.

But U.S. District Judge Larry Burns said Congress delegated such authority to Chertoff in June. He noted that the executive branch already had significant jurisdiction over national security and immigration.

Cory Briggs, an attorney representing the environmental groups, said he was undecided whether to appeal.

Litigation has stalled the project since it was approved by Congress in 1996. Last year, the California Coastal Commission refused to grant permits, saying damage to sensitive habitats outweighed security benefits.

In a lawsuit in 2004, the Sierra Club said the project threatened the Tijuana River estuary, home to more than 370 migratory and native birds, six of them endangered.

The proposal calls for adding two fences to an existing barrier made of Navy landing mats. A maintenance road would be built between the primary and secondary fences, along with lights, sensors and cameras.

The 2006 Homeland Security budget includes $35 million to cover most of the work.

The final leg of the fence would cross steep, rugged canyons including "Smuggler's Gulch," a maze of trails once overrun by illegal border crossers. The federal government launched a crackdown in the area in 1994, forcing migrants to cross in more remote areas.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051213...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

i can't believe they're actually getting this done so quickly. does anyone know the specs of the fence such as height, material?

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they will still get in

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they will still get in
...and I'd be happy for them to start living a nice life now, after get here...

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Lepanto
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they will still get in


start shooting them


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Thats not for keeping people out, thats gonna bew needed to keep them in, once they realize they dont live in such a paradise that they thought they were living in

Youll see in a 100 years time there will be americans running to cuba for a taste of freedom


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"Litigation has stalled the project since it was approved by Congress in 1996. Last year, the California Coastal Commission refused to grant permits, saying damage to sensitive habitats outweighed security benefits."

...but Illegals running through the wetlands won't cause any damage.

There must be a reason they want to close this off so close to SD. And yah, it won't stop them I'd bet either...besides, do we really want to? All that cheap labor. A lot of San Diegans are going to wake up the day the fence is done and wonder where the gardener is, lol.

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Originally posted by Moongoose
Thats not for keeping people out, thats gonna bew needed to keep them in, once they realize they dont live in such a paradise that they thought they were living in

Youll see in a 100 years time there will be americans running to cuba for a taste of freedom


yeah must be it...

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"Litigation has stalled the project since it was approved by Congress in 1996. Last year, the California Coastal Commission refused to grant permits, saying damage to sensitive habitats outweighed security benefits."

...but Illegals running through the wetlands won't cause any damage.

There must be a reason they want to close this off so close to SD. And yah, it won't stop them I'd bet either...besides, do we really want to? All that cheap labor. A lot of San Diegans are going to wake up the day the fence is done and wonder where the gardener is, lol.


did u see that special on CNN i think, "A day without Mexicans". made me rofl.


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did u see that special on CNN i think, "A day without Mexicans". made me rofl.


NO! Missed that one...maybe they'll re-run it...I'll check their site for it too, thanks.

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NO! Missed that one...maybe they'll re-run it...I'll check their site for it too, thanks.


i saw it when i was like half asleep and it was just a bunch of images around the city of like lawn mowers and mail carriages and there was no one there and then...A DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS...title appears and i rofled.


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start shooting them


Every time a Mexican is shot Bush gets dumber.


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i saw it when i was like half asleep and it was just a bunch of images around the city of like lawn mowers and mail carriages and there was no one there and then...A DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS...title appears and i rofled.


I can imagine, lol...I can picture what it would be like trying to eat out too! No cooks, no bus boys, no valet, lol.

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Originally posted by ierxium
Every time a Mexican is shot Bush gets dumber.


I wish.

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I can imagine, lol...I can picture what it would be like trying to eat out too! No cooks, no bus boys, no valet, lol.


Well here on the East Coast, we'd only lose grocery and fruit/veggie market workers and maybe a little bit of construction. As cooks go you can always find Italians or something to do it, having worked in a few restaraunts myself. Valet are never Mexicans here, at least not where i worked valet lol.


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