Mexico's National Human Rights Commission described the U.S. measure [increasing border control and perhaps building a huge fence] as "part of a tendency to criminalize migration with a wall that calls to mind the Berlin Wall."

Somebody please describe to me how this parallels the Berlin Wall at all. Can't we just sink the shithole that is Mexico?

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I wish we could. They need to shut the fuck up. Especially since they make littke guide books as to how to sneak into our country. And didn't they refuse to allow their citizens working visas like our government intended?

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Hot empty air being blown from South of the border, they can talk till the cows come home but the majority of Americans want immigration to be dealt with in a proper manner, no matter what political persuasion. Vincente Fox described the U.S. actions as disingenuous, he should speak of such a concept. Forgive the U.S. for protecting its borders from criminal entry by others.

If I was a poor Mexican I would sneak across too but that doesn't imply that the U.S. government shouldn't stop me and return me back if caught. I'm tired of all the talk build the damn fence already and make the businesses accountable for hiring illegals in the bunch, but that will not happen of course. The Mexicans can talk to the end of time but they can't do a damn thing if the U.S. builds a fence to keep out illegals.

P.S. Mexico has a Human Rights Commission, maybe they should start by looking after the rights of their own citizens within their own "Borders" I'm sick of all this PC shit when it comes to illegal immigration. I'm an immigrant and waited years to get to the U.S. legally.

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They could start a war

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Originally posted by Lepanto They could start a war

Great, we could get Baja California then and a few more desert areas of Northern Mexico.

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More resorts, better for us, huh?

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Seriously, these fn goobacks man.

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While it is ridiculous to compare further border controls to the Berlin wall (which was intended to keep people *in*), I think several US citizens (including some of the stupid arrogant TA-ones) lack the greater persepctive: It is by no means settled that immigrants from latin america is a bad thing for the US. They take the jobs that "regular" americans wouldn't dream of doing, and once accepted into the club they tend to start relatively well-performing businesses.
I don't claim that they are a net profit for the US, but I don't accept that they are bad either. (That is, until I get more evidence.)

I don't portray Mexicans as bums or something that I don't want. I do love the fact that they take jobs that Americans don't want to hold. However, nowdays it's getting too out of hand. Way too many of them without contributing to our taxes. That's why our governemt wanted to implement the working visas for them something that I mentioned earlier and I think, the Mexican gonvernment ignored.

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Originally posted by trancaholic It is by no means settled that immigrants from latin america is a bad thing for the US. They take the jobs that "regular" americans wouldn't dream of doing, and once accepted into the club they tend to start relatively well-performing businesses. I don't claim that they are a net profit for the US, but I don't accept that they are bad either. (That is, until I get more evidence.)

You do realize that the same applies to millions of "Legal Immigrants" as well, except that they pay taxes on their meager wages that are earned while someone who is illegal is paid a lowball salary and does not. I will say it again, no country has to defend itself when trying to stop illegal immigration, I don't see Europe welcoming Africans who sneak into Spain and Italy and the Spanish territories in North Africa with open arms, instead they have doubled barbed wires fences set up in Cueta and Melilla where people die while jumping it. I wonder why this is so.

Mexico needs to look at itself instead of always pulling its anti-U.S. B.S. everytime an issue arises, what is it doing to better the lives of its people who sneak across, I think we know that answer. I don't care to refer to Mexicans by any condascending term, that's not me, my issue is with illegal immigration and that is it.

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The Task Force offers a detailed and ambitious set of proposals that build on the recommendations adopted by the three governments (United States, Canada and Mexico) at the Texas summit of March 2005. The Task Force’s central recommendation is establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community, the boundaries of which would be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter.
Building a North American Community
Report of an Independent Task Force
Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 The Task Force offers a detailed and ambitious set of proposals that build on the recommendations adopted by the three governments (United States, Canada and Mexico) at the Texas summit of March 2005. The Task Force’s central recommendation is establishment by 2010 of a North American economic and security community, the boundaries of which would be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter. http://www.cfr.org/content/publications/attachments/NorthAmerica_TF_final.pdf]Building a North American Community Report of an Independent Task Force Sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations[/URL]

Damn. Is this the first steps towards a North American passport / super-state? :-S