http://www.telegraphindia.com/10601...ory_5715283.asp

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/articl...1981591,00.html

So, all those murders and persecution of my people for over 2000 years were all "ooops, formality error"???

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

Hmmm, interesting.

So, by extension, if I start murdering people and doing bad shit, I can say I'm just fulfilling God's plan by testing the faith of others. "Why God? Why did you allow this man to kill my brother?"

This is exactly what annoys me about The Church. They keep trying to put the supernatural in a box, so to speak. Here they are telling us what God's plan is. What hubris. Now I believe in God. I also believe that a good portion of the Christian doctrine probably has a great deal of truth to it. However debates on the subject of the true nature of Jesus and other such theological matters seem pointless to me and only serve to take attention away from the message on how to live your life, and that's the whole point isn't it?

I suppose it is necessary, in the end, for declarations like this because there are people who would take the Judas betrayal as a reason to hate Jews.

My friend always attributes everything to "Gods plan"
Today I'm gonna smack that bitch in the mouth

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Originally posted by Ripped Bag My friend always attributes everything to "Gods plan" Today I'm gonna smack that bitch in the mouth

and tell him its part of God's plan

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Originally posted by zarathustra I suppose it is necessary, in the end, for declarations like this because there are people who would take the Judas betrayal as a reason to hate Jews.

Well, not in our day and time. One has so many other reasons to hate Jews.

1. We own all of the world's money and gold (Gates, Buffet, Jobs, even Dell - are all jews)

2. Greenspan runs economy in US... actually, another Jew came in to replace him.

3. Russian oligarch's are actually... Jews... (that part is true)

4. 2 of UK soccer teams are now Jew owned

5. According to Mel Gibson and his dad, we invented the holocaust fairytale.

6. Our people are the only people in the world to live on so called "occupied territories" (forget the fact that there are volumes of evidence to suggest otherwise but consider the source! none of these volumes were written by arabs!)

7. We are The Illuminati (add echo and deep voice for cool effect)

8. We drink Christian babies' blood and eat their flesh.

9. We controll all of the Media... Oh, and John Stewart will host the Oscars.

10. We're responsible for the murders of Kennedy, Hoffa, and Tookie Williams.

I'll think of some more later.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH and tell him its part of God's plan

Ripped Bag - *smack*
that bitch - " man?"
Ripped Bag - "sorry, I had to, part of Gawd's plan."
that bitch - "What? How was that part of God's plan?"
Ripped Bag - "mysterious ways my friend, mysterious ways."

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by emc^2 Well, not in our day and time. One has so many other reasons to hate Jews. 1. We own all of the world's money and gold (Gates, Buffet, Jobs, even Dell - are all jews) 2. Greenspan runs economy in US... actually, another Jew came in to replace him. 3. Russian oligarch's are actually... Jews... (that part is true) 4. 2 of UK soccer teams are now Jew owned 5. According to Mel Gibson and his dad, we invented the holocaust fairytale. 6. Our people are the only people in the world to live on so called "occupied territories" (forget the fact that there are volumes of evidence to suggest otherwise but consider the source! none of these volumes were written by arabs!) 7. We are The Illuminati (add echo and deep voice for cool effect) 8. We drink Christian babies' blood and eat their flesh. 9. We controll all of the Media... Oh, and John Stewart will host the Oscars. 10. We're responsible for the murders of Kennedy, Hoffa, and Tookie Williams. I'll think of some more later.

plus the jews made me lose my car keys last week.

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Originally posted by RickyM you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard plus the jews made me lose my car keys last week.

No, that was a part of G-d's plan dude. But the time you lost your wallet - that was all us... and you didn't loose it.... we stole it...

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

MONG!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dont argue with the yanks nutter, they know best!

All depends if you believe Calvin's idea of pre-destination. His theory is if God is all knowing and all powerful that he knows who will be going to heaven and hell(become murderers and whatnot). He created us knowing what we would choose thus our lives were pre-determined before we were even created. Most protestants though do not believe in pre-destination, that our choices are outside the effect of God and that even if he knows our ultimate fate that we choose that fate freeingly.

More than likely these articles are expressing the opinions of a few men, more than likely the men that are responsible for releasing the book from Judas. If the vatican ends up believing this, the pope will knock some sense into them.

judas actually did betray jesus. the only weird thing is, the OT predicted it hundreds of years in advance. the vatican does not represent all of christianity but only those who are roman catholics, so when i hear something like this being announced, im skeptical. as far as im concerned, the catholic church has already dont enough damage to be taken seriously as the authoritative interpreter and representative of christianity.

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Actually, it was Froddo who betrayed Anakin by pawning the ring instead of destroying it. This later lead to Obi Wan becomming a Jedi, instead of joining the HM Royal Marines. It's all in the scripture, you just have to read it.

Oh, and my religion (the one I just invented) is cooler than yours. Mine has people flying in flying saucers, teleporters, time machine, and when you get to the next level you get cooler weapons and you can waste sinners, and like when you're done you get to collect a prize. Not a fake trophy or something but an actual tangible prize. Depending on how many points you scored.

Now, who wants to join my religion? We'll come up with the name at the first meeting.

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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)