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spacetrip
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Registered: Feb 2004
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Pitch Bending

I heard that when mixing a lot of DJs rub the platter or spin the label to keep the records in time, is this correct? Why would you need to do this when you adjust the pitch with the pitch control.

Old Post Jan-09-2006 21:25  United Kingdom
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PoisonJam19
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That is correct and the resons DJs do that is because it's more acurate than moving the pitch slider. Also, you need to do it to determine which direction you need to adjust the tempo, aswell as align the beats.

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Zild
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But its good to try to never touch the platter. A good exercise is beatmatching entirely using the pitch fader.

I don't beatmatch that way because its faster to ride the pitch fader and make corrections manually when you have the channel closed, but when its open it is really great to be able to only use the pitch fader to pitch bend.


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PoisonJam19
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Originally posted by Zild
But its good to try to never touch the platter. A good exercise is beatmatching entirely using the pitch fader.

I don't beatmatch that way because its faster to ride the pitch fader and make corrections manually when you have the channel closed, but when its open it is really great to be able to only use the pitch fader to pitch bend.


It's also possible though that you wont be able to get back to the exact point you were at before you did the pitch bend, unless that point was zero.

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Zild
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It's also possible though that you wont be able to get back to the exact point you were at before you did the pitch bend, unless that point was zero.


That's why it is called riding the pitch because you ride it back and forth, and it sounds better. And think about it, if you needed to pitch bend then you weren't right on in the first place, and when you're pitch bending you should only have to move the pitch fader a few millimeters in the opposite direction of the slip. It really isn't that difficult.


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PoisonJam19
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True, it's not hard, just saying for a beginner it might be.

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razzi
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Registered: Sep 2003
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pitch bending is gods gift to the dj. even for a beginner its not that hard. after a bit of practice you will be able to mix with about 5-10 seconds of beatmatching, and do the rest live without anyone being able to tell (maybe some djs though obviously)

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Re: Pitch Bending

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Originally posted by spacetrip
I heard that when mixing a lot of DJs rub the platter or spin the label to keep the records in time, is this correct? Why would you need to do this when you adjust the pitch with the pitch control.


If the two records are a different BPM (beats per minute) lets say 138 and 134, when trying to keep the slower track up to the speed of the faster track, if you rely solely on the pitch control to speed up the 134 track, you have to extend it past its correct point (to make them match) to get to slow record up to speed, and then drop it back to the correct point, meaning back and forth on the pitch slider untill you find 'nirvana'
Much easier to increase the pitch a couple of percent and push the record back to a point where the beats are in sync and try from there, adjusting as needed.
If you know the tempo (BPM) of the two tracks, then you can guess roughly what % you would need to match the two at the same BPM.
In the example above if track 138 was at 0 on the pitch slider, then approx 3% positive would bring the 134 track up to 138 (I say approx) - alternatively -3% on 138 would approx match 134 at 0.

The push on the record is to speed it up, the finger on the platter acts as a brake. So you would push the 134 track and brake the 138 track (only one, depending on what the cue track is).

Hope this helps.

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davemolina
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That's the way I do it for now, but I practice using the pitch religioulsy and hope to one day use only that.


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I actually learned to beatmatch using only the pitch control and not touching the platter at all. Only recently did I start using the platter and now I pretty much use a combination of the 2.

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That's the way I do it for now, but I practice using the pitch religioulsy and hope to one day use only that.



if that works for you, cool! but really it is the end result that matters regardless of how you get there.

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DJ_Ikronix
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Registered: Apr 2003
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If you know your tempos are matched, but you drop a record in early or late, it can be advantageous to just give it a little push rather than fuck with the pitch bend. Not good to do it when the record is actually in the mix, however.


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