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crazedonee
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Jersey
help with drop outs

I need some help with dropouts and crashes

i only have them when i use too many warm soft synths like pro 53
or zeta together.

I also know that i could mix all my synths down to audio ,but im trying to avoid that,so everytime i want to edit or re-record a piece i dont have to delete the audio and bounce to audio again.

this is my configuration

p4 1.8 ghz 1 gig ram 40 gig harddrive
and using cakewalk sequencer

the only time i get them is when i raise the voices on a synth for a warmer more rich ,fatter ,lead sound ,if i lower the polyphony to like 11 or 13 its okay but once i go to 26 thats when it starts to crash.

so any help would be appreciated

Last edited by crazedonee on Jan-26-2006 at 12:02

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MSZ
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: kill me

hmm i have never experienced dropouts personally but have you tried a different sequencer? my setup is identical to yours( and i do use the vsts you are using with many instances) , i use Fl studio 6.
did you try going through some cakewalk forums and what not to see if anyone else is having the same troubles as you?

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crazedonee
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Registered: May 2005
Location: Jersey

yeah they said raise the i/o buffer from 64 to 256


when i start my next project ill see if it worked or not.

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welsh-gaz
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: North Wales
Re: help with drop outs

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p4 1.8 ghz 1 gig ram 40 gig harddrive
and using cakewalk sequencer


Methinks you need a faster processor. These days anythin below 2ghz will struggle with modern music s/ware. I'd say 2.4 as a minimum

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crazedonee
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Location: Jersey

thanks

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crazedonee
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i thought memory was important when it came to soft synth studios?

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Storyteller
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It depends. Your ram memory is mostly used when you're working with sample based softsynths such as kontakt and the spectrasonics plugs (Stylus rmx, atmosphere, trilogy). the samples used are stored in the ram. subtractive other kind of non-sample based synths use less ram as they don't have samples to load but generate their sound due to various calculations and are more dependant of your processor speed than a simple sample based plugin


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nhibberd
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands

I don't realy have any experience with Cakewalk but most host-software packages have a VST-performance indicator. On this you can read your CPU and HD usage. If one of these hits the end of the bar that's a good indication of what the problem is.

If you are on an older comp you are limited in the number of VST's you have running. Pro-53 and Z3TA are generaly quite CPU intencive, expecialy when you notch up the polyphony. A trance tune rarely hits the 26 polyphony mark. Polyphony indicated how mane notes can be sequenced at the same time, it's different from Unisin which indicates the number of patches per note played.

Try to dedicate your comp solely to music production. In Windows XP you can press CNRLT-ALT-DEL to get a list of proceses running and it indicates how much CPU they are taking up. Non-system processes that take a lot of CPU should be de-installed, or not enabled at startup if you want a production dedicated machine.

You shouldn't wory too much about RAM. If you have 1 gig, a high quality sample is about 10MB per minute. But you should cross check you RAM to see if any RAM-intencive applications could be eliminated.

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