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Armin Acolyte



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Thumbs down Iran warns West over Security Council decision

Personal I'd let Iran go ahead with their plans but give them a stern warning that if the World finds out that are in fact building or have nuclear weapons that the consequences will be swift and without compunction.
Let them hang themselves I say.

I can understand the apprehension from the West though.
Iran doesn't want to talk openly about their 'peaceful plans', make off-handed comments and appear to have an ego the size of their country - believing they don't have to report to anybody.

This article just seems to solidify my beliefs...

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Iran warns West over Security Council decision

Updated Tue. Jan. 31 2006 12:04 PM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

Any move to refer Iran's nuclear file to the UN Security Council would mean the end of diplomacy, a senior Iranian official cautioned Tuesday.

The sharply worded warning was issued by leading nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, following an agreement by key powers to report Tehran to the Council.

"Reporting Iran's dossier to the UN Security Council will be unconstructive and the end of diplomacy," said Iran's leading nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani, who state television quoted as saying that Tehran believes the issue can be resolved peacefully.

Larijani's comments followed a London meeting that lasted into early Tuesday, during which the five permanent members of the Security Council agreed to recommend that the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) report Iran to the Council.

An unnamed American diplomat told Reuters news agency: "This is the most powerful message we could have hoped for."

The key powers also decided the Council should wait until March to take up the nuclear file after a formal report on Tehran's activities from the IAEA, which is to meet Thursday in Vienna.

Meanwhile, diplomats told The Associated Press that Iran gave the UN's nuclear watchdog sensitive documents that seem linked to nuclear warhead design.

Vice President Gholamreza Aghazadeh, who also runs Iran's Atomic Energy Organization, said it was difficult to predict the outcome of the IAEA meeting, the semi-official Iranian Students News Agency reported.

"The biggest problem for the West is that they can't find any (legal) justification to refer Iran to the UN Security Council," ISNA quoted him as saying.

Last week, Larijani flew to Moscow and Beijing to seek Russian and Chinese support against Western efforts to refer Iran to the Security Council.

Both Russia and China decided to vote for referral, a move that surprised observers as both nations have major economic ties to Iran and have been reluctant to escalate the case.

A French government official, speaking on the customary condition of anonymity, told AP that the Russian and Chinese ministers had been convinced of the need to show a united front.

Meanwhile, Russian and Chinese diplomats are expected to visit Tehran soon to urge Iranian officials to cooperate with the UN nuclear watchdog.

The United States suspects Iran is aiming to build atomic weapons, a charge with Tehran denies, saying its nuclear program is only for generating electricity.

Iran broke IAEA seals at a uranium enrichment plant Jan. 10 and resumed small-scale enrichment.

The decision provoked an outcry as enrichment is a process that can produce material which can be used in nuclear weapons as well as power plants.

If Iran's nuclear file is referred to the Security Council on Thursday, Iran could retaliate.

Iran, which has approved a law requiring the government to stop all voluntary cooperation with IAEA in the event of referral, is likely to retaliate immediately.

>>Source<<


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A war with Iran means Oil price over 85 USD per barrel. Thats atleast, althought I think it will touch 100 USD per barrel.

And such high oil prices will have global repurcussions, economic slowdown for the whole world. And can be possibly a last nail to the coffin for small countries like Indonesia which hugly relies on global oil supply for its need.

Wake up people! Dont mess with Iran , they are not some shit small sanctions crippled nation like Iraq / North Korea / Afganistan. They are big, they are powerfull and most importantly its people and leaders of Iran have self-respect and pride in themselves. They wont let it go so easily; it will be tough for US and whole world.


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quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Wake up people! Dont mess with Iran , they are not some shit small sanctions crippled nation like Iraq / North Korea / Afganistan. They are big, they are powerfull and most importantly its people and leaders of Iran have self-respect and pride in themselves. They wont let it go so easily; it will be tough for US and whole world.



I have been saying the same for a loooooooong time,but many dont listen.


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quote:
Originally posted by Purple
Wake up people! Dont mess with Iran , they are not some shit small sanctions crippled nation like Iraq / North Korea / Afganistan.

Not yet anyways...

quote:

They are big, they are powerfull and most importantly its people and leaders of Iran have self-respect and pride in themselves. They wont let it go so easily; it will be tough for US and whole world.


Other than their stranglehold on some world oil which can be easily replaced by us here in Canada, their petty squabbles won't mean much in the next 10-15 years when we won't need them as much.
They're acting like an errant child more than a 'cultured' civilization. Negotiations aren't done with hiding things under the table in hopes of getting what you want.
If only they were honest in their dealings...*sigh*


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quote:
Originally posted by Fir3start3r
their petty squabbles won't mean much in the next 10-15 years when we won't need them as much.
They're acting like an errant child more than a 'cultured' civilization.

+1

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US can't afford to even lose Irans trade of oil as much as you people would like to deny.

Barrels are around the 65 dollar mark and it is said that IF Iran does stop oil export to US, the it will most likely cost 100 dollars for a barrel of oil.

But if this does happen, start getting ready for your push bikes and scooters for work.


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US can't afford to even lose Irans trade of oil as much as you people would like to deny.

Barrels are around the 65 dollar mark and it is said that IF Iran does stop oil export to US, the it will most likely cost 100 dollars for a barrel of oil.

But if this does happen, start getting ready for your push bikes and scooters for work.



I think I should save some money about buying a scooter now..

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quote:
give them a stern warning that if the World finds out that are in fact building or have nuclear weapons


U.N.: Iran Holds Black Market Papers to Build Atomic Bomb

From the article:
"Iran has claimed it did not ask for the document but was given it anyway as part of other black market purchases"
hmm, maybe they're just curious how to build a nuclear bomb but actually have no intentions? I think not. Im curious how this whole thing will play out.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer
I have been saying the same for a loooooooong time,but many dont listen.


Becuse what you say is full of shit. Why would I want to believe a person who sounds like a terrorist, and his ideas are that of a terrorist?

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Becuse what you say is full of shit. Why would I want to believe a person who sounds like a terrorist, and his ideas are that of a terrorist?


you are right,a redneck like yourself wouldnt understand logic and facts.


p.s If I was a terrorists why would I be wasting my time with a bunch of nerds? I would be blowing the shit out of the U.S instead


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Well if someone gives me nice sniper gun and a decent escape route, I will do it.

And Iran is not just an oil rich country, it has a large industrial base. Only from outside it looks like they are an oil dependant nation, but the fact is that they are one of the major industrialised nations of this world. And major part of the electricity that would be generated from Nuclear power stations are slated to feed the growing energy demands from its growing industrial units.

Check out international business/trade portals, check out export import data from around the world, you will see that Iran has its presence in every other sector, in every business portal, in every trade fair.


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quote:
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U.N.: Iran Holds Black Market Papers to Build Atomic Bomb

From the article:
"Iran has claimed it did not ask for the document but was given it anyway as part of other black market purchases"
hmm, maybe they're just curious how to build a nuclear bomb but actually have no intentions? I think not. Im curious how this whole thing will play out.


Heard about this tonight, interesting...
Bush aims to reduce US dependancy on imported oil. Down 75% in 10 or 20 years. Today's state of the union address.
That would certainly ease concerns about oil prices, albeit down the track.

It's a changing world huh?

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