What is a Paliestine???? Oh, you mean that peice of land that belongs to Israel and was unlawfully occupied by bunch of Jordanians, Iranians, Egyptians, Syrians, and other arabs that were otherwise arabian gypsies and called themselves "Palestinians"???

http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/palestine.htm

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The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose Zionism. "For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa. While as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan." (PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein, March 31, 1977, interview with the Dutch newspaper Trouw.)

This will probably end up in Israel/Palestine thread but anyway. My head is about to explode reading this trashy crap. It is full of lies, blatant bullshit and dressing up a smelly coyote in sheep's skin. Hamas is a terrrorist organization with its primary purpose being the destruction of the state of Israel. Everything else they do is within the confines of "means to the end" - including all the political and humanitarian activities. You cannot win support without doing these things. Once you have the support you can proceed with your agenda, having the mass behind you.

Make no mistake about it - the #1 goal of Hamas is not welfare of its people. It is welfare of its people on Israeli soil with all jews gone. All the trite drivel about acceptance of other religions can only be demonstrated by examining other Arab nations. Please name a single Arab nation where you can find a Sinagogue or Church.

Here's a so-called moderate country (Saudi Arabia) example for you:

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Five East Africans arrested and detained for a month for leading a private Christian worship service in Riyadh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1430851/posts

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Originally posted by emc^2 What is a Paliestine???? Oh, you mean that peice of land that belongs to Israel and was unlawfully occupied by bunch of Jordanians, Iranians, Egyptians, Syrians, and other arabs that were otherwise arabian gypsies and called themselves "Palestinians"??? http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/palestine.htm This will probably end up in Israel/Palestine thread but anyway. My head is about to explode reading this trashy crap. It is full of lies, blatant bullshit and dressing up a smelly coyote in sheep's skin. Hamas is a terrrorist organization with its primary purpose being the destruction of the state of Israel. Everything else they do is within the confines of "means to the end" - including all the political and humanitarian activities. You cannot win support without doing these things. Once you have the support you can proceed with your agenda, having the mass behind you. Make no mistake about it - the #1 goal of Hamas is not welfare of its people. It is welfare of its people on Israeli soil with all jews gone. All the trite drivel about acceptance of other religions can only be demonstrated by examining other Arab nations. Please name a single Arab nation where you can find a Sinagogue or Church. Here's a so-called moderate country (Saudi Arabia) example for you: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1430851/posts

uhhhhhhhhhh there are Churches in Arab nations...Ever heard of a religion Orthodox...I know of so many Palestinian Orthodox people

Anyhow I do not agree with this Article I am just posting to see what people thought of it

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Originally posted by Clublifexxx uhhhhhhhhhh there are Churches in Arab nations...Ever heard of a religion Orthodox...I know of so many Palestinian Orthodox people Anyhow I do not agree with this Article I am just posting to see what people thought of it

Ok, I stand corrected - you are right on churches. There's also Egyptian Latas (I think?)

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Originally posted by Clublifexxx uhhhhhhhhhh there are Churches in Arab nations...Ever heard of a religion Orthodox...I know of so many Palestinian Orthodox people

So what if there are churches? Arabs are A PEOPLE not a religion and if you honestly believe christians or jews would be safe in those arab countries you're sadly mistaken. i've used this argument alot, people could stand in the middle of NYC and protest against our government but go ahead and try this in Iran and see how you get away with it.

Tehran, Oct. 2 - Violent clashes erupted between local residents and the security forces in the city of Isfahan, central Iran. Among the casualties is a 14 year-old schoolboy who was reportedly was shot and seriously wounded.

On Thursday, eye-witnesses in nearby Shahin Shahr reported clashes between local people and armed Bassij Forces through the early hours of the day. Residents said that the majority of those who fought against the Bassij Forces were teenagers. One of the Bassij militia has been reportedly taken to hospital after severe injuries.

Sporadic street-battles continued well into the night and in the early hours of Friday morning a government-owned oil storage was set alight along with juggernaut tires in Seyedi Shomali street.

In the past week there have been deadly clashes between angry youths and State Security Forces in the cities of Bandar Abbas and Miandoab and the Nour-Abad region of Mamasani, with seven fatalities.

Analysts say rising discontent and frustration among youth over government-imposed restrictions and widespread unemployment are the main reason for the growing number of public protests across the country.

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Originally posted by emc^2 Make no mistake about it - the #1 goal of Hamas is not welfare of its people. It is welfare of its people on Israeli soil with all jews gone.

Isn't that Israels goal as well? to get rid of all arabs, steal their soil to build settlements?
Don't be so narrowminded.

you obviously don't have much clue do you?
you can find churches (and often mosques) in every single muslim country in the world. in fact the coptic church in Egypt have the largest coptic community in the world.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Isn't that Israels goal as well? to get rid of all arabs, steal their soil to build settlements?

really? base your arguments on something? show me how israel doesn't just want to E X I S T.

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Originally posted by Lepanto really? base your arguments on something? show me how israel doesn't just want to E X I S T.

the fact that Israel have stolen most of palestinian soil, built settlements there, built a wall on their territorium, forbidden palestinians to travel to their works etc.
what more do you need?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Isn't that Israels goal as well? to get rid of all arabs, steal their soil to build settlements? Don't be so narrowminded. you obviously don't have much clue do you? you can find churches (and often mosques) in every single muslim country in the world. in fact the coptic church in Egypt have the largest coptic community in the world.

Agree. You can't only accuse Hamas of terrorism while remaining blindly ignorant of Israels countless acts of "State Sponsored terrorism" over the decades.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 the fact that Israel have stolen most of palestinian soil, built settlements there, built a wall on their territorium, forbidden palestinians to travel to their works etc. what more do you need?

Wasn't it established that there are no such things as palestinians already lol?

wait so if it took back their own land and built a wall to PROTECT themselves that equals their willing destruction of the arab race? wow.

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Originally posted by Lepanto Wasn't it established that there are no such things as palestinians already lol? wait so if it took back their own land and built a wall to PROTECT themselves that equals their willing destruction of the arab race? wow.

if it only stopped there but it doesnt. israel is constantly violating humanitarian laws by bombing civilians and children. Tanks against stones. Militaries against kids.
what more is left to do?

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Originally posted by RebeL9 if it only stopped there but it doesnt. israel is constantly violating humanitarian laws by bombing civilians and children. Tanks against stones. Militaries against kids. what more is left to do?

they don't go around for NO REASON and kill people. more than could be said for hamas. What's more left to do? FUCK OFF there are plenty of countries there for "palestinians" to rot in. And what i mean is that they lived there for God knows how long and have done shit with the country, in a few years the Jews turned that desert into a beautiful and modern country but yeah they so don't deserve their own land if you're refering to Sharon's helicotper bombings against terrorist leaders then sure you're right...all civilians and kids. if none of them would touch the Israelis they wouldn't be doing shit either. Nice and simple enough, i hope.

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