Are they really Al Qaeda and Taliban operatives?:

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A high percentage, perhaps the majority, of the 500-odd men now held at Guantanamo were not captured on any battlefield, let alone on "the battlefield in Afghanistan" (as Bush asserted) while "trying to kill American forces" (as McClellan claimed). Fewer than 20 percent of the Guantanamo detainees, the best available evidence suggests, have ever been Qaeda members. Many scores, and perhaps hundreds, of the detainees were not even Taliban foot soldiers, let alone Qaeda terrorists. They were innocent, wrongly seized noncombatants with no intention of joining the Qaeda campaign to murder Americans. The majority were not captured by U.S. forces but rather handed over by reward-seeking Pakistanis and Afghan warlords and by villagers of highly doubtful reliability.

Fewer than 20% have ever been Al Qaeda members. As for the remaining 80% or so? Hmmm, Pakistani and Afghan warlord enemies, more than likely.

Nice.

Very fucking nice. Terrific roundup by Dubya's War on Terror, ain't it?

It gets better:

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Last July, the Pentagon elaborated in a report of an investigation into complaints by FBI agents of abusive interrogation methods. Many of these methods -- such as shackling detainees to the floor for hours in painful positions, keeping them shivering cold during interrogations, grilling them for 16 hours nonstop, waking them up by moving them every few hours, using loud music and strobe lights -- had been officially approved as "humane," the Pentagon report explained. Bush has also pledged that the Guantanamo detainees are treated "humanely." At the same time, he has stressed, "I know for certain ... that these are bad people" -- all of them, he has implied. If the president believes either of these assertions, he is a fool. If he does not, choose your own word for him. http://nationaljournal.com/taylor.htm

And you Bush apologists believe he's running the domestic spying program with better efficiency?

"Just trust us."

Yeah, because the Afghan warlords who's poppy seed production as well as the Pakistani reward-seekers said so.

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