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Fir3start3r
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Question Al Gore's Meltdown

I'm really shocked at the silent on this subject, especially here.
Too busy posting moot conspiracy theories are we?

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February 12, 2006
Al Gore Sells Out To The Saudis

Earlier this week, I pointed out that the Jeddah Economic Forum had disinvited the Danes after their publication of the Prophet cartoons. Arab News reported that Al Gore and Steve Forbes had agreed to appear at the JEF prior to Denmark's exclusion, and several bloggers wondered whether they would endorse the Saudi position and attend after such a move.

Not only did Gore attend, but he sold out the US in order to suck up to the Islamists:
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Former Vice President Al Gore told a mainly Saudi audience on Sunday that the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that most Americans did not support such treatment.

Gore said Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. The former vice president said the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications.

"The thoughtless way in which visas are now handled, that is a mistake," Gore said during the Jiddah Economic Forum. "The worst thing we can possibly do is to cut off the channels of friendship and mutual understanding between Saudi Arabia and the United States."

I'm stunned almost to speechlessness. We held mass roundups of Arabs? When? Where? What exactly were the "unforgivable" conditions of which Gore speaks? And as far as the visas go, when exactly did Saudis have a right to enter the United States at whim without any consideration of security? Perhaps the former VP has forgotten, but most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.

In truth, Gore sold out the United States and any notion of freedom by appearing after Denmark got barred from attending an economic forum for the publishing decision of one of its privately-owned newspapers. Just showing up was bad enough. To make accusations about some mythical internment program for Arabs in the US just plays into the hands of the conspiracy-addicted Arabian press.

Thanks, Al. You've gone from a respectable politician to a Saudi suck-up in one of the worst political meltdowns in American history.

UPDATE: Tigerhawk notes that "[t]his business of prestigious American politicians attacking the United States from abroad is repellant, because it serves no legitimate purpose. It is one thing to attack our policies in front of American voters -- that's how the system works -- and quite another to do it from deep into the heart of Wahhabism." Read the rest of his scathing critique as well.

For me, that is a major part of the sell-out, but not all of it. Al Gore could have said this in New York and I would still call it a sell-out and a betrayal of his nation. He spouts the worst conspiracy-theory garbage, without any supporting evidence, which feeds into the propaganda of our enemies. The fact that he did it on stage in Jeddah in a forum which had already booted the Danes for daring to stand up to Islamists only emphasizes the craven and self-involved character of the former VP.

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Re: Al Gore's Meltdown

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
I'm really shocked at the silent on this subject, especially here.
Too busy posting moot conspiracy theories are we?

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I'm stunned almost to speechlessness. We held mass roundups of Arabs? When? Where? What exactly were the "unforgivable" conditions of which Gore speaks? And as far as the visas go, when exactly did Saudis have a right to enter the United States at whim without any consideration of security? Perhaps the former VP has forgotten, but most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.

In truth, Gore sold out the United States and any notion of freedom by appearing after Denmark got barred from attending an economic forum for the publishing decision of one of its privately-owned newspapers. Just showing up was bad enough. To make accusations about some mythical internment program for Arabs in the US just plays into the hands of the conspiracy-addicted Arabian press.

Thanks, Al. You've gone from a respectable politician to a Saudi suck-up in one of the worst political meltdowns in American history.

UPDATE: Tigerhawk notes that "[t]his business of prestigious American politicians attacking the United States from abroad is repellant, because it serves no legitimate purpose. It is one thing to attack our policies in front of American voters -- that's how the system works -- and quite another to do it from deep into the heart of Wahhabism." Read the rest of his scathing critique as well.

For me, that is a major part of the sell-out, but not all of it. Al Gore could have said this in New York and I would still call it a sell-out and a betrayal of his nation. He spouts the worst conspiracy-theory garbage, without any supporting evidence, which feeds into the propaganda of our enemies. The fact that he did it on stage in Jeddah in a forum which had already booted the Danes for daring to stand up to Islamists only emphasizes the craven and self-involved character of the former VP.

>>Source<<


Gore is just another one-world government sellout. There's really little difference between him and the rest of them except for the fact that his blatant idiocy tends to give the bipartisanly blinded critics something else to laugh at. I usually just ignore him as this really isn't all that important in regards to the big picture.

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Former Vice President Al Gore told a mainly Saudi audience on Sunday that the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that most Americans did not support such treatment.

Gore said Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. The former vice president said the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications.


Er, not that I want to be seen to be supporting Al Gore during his "MoveOn" autumn years at all, but I'm failing to see what the issue is here.

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We held mass roundups of Arabs? When? Where?


After 9/11! In Cuba!

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What exactly were the "unforgivable" conditions of which Gore speaks?


Good question - perhaps he's referring to Guantanamo Bay? No wait, or is it Abu Grayib? Or perhaps he's talking about the European torture camps? Shit, I just don't know what he's talking about anymore!

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In truth, Gore sold out the United States and any notion of freedom by appearing after Denmark got barred from attending an economic forum for the publishing decision of one of its privately-owned newspapers.


Because the Bush administration certainly wouldn't "sell out on freedom" by condemning the publication of the cartoons in one of Denmark's "privately owned newspapers", would it?

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Thanks, Al. You've gone from a respectable politician...


We are talking about Al "I sleep nude" Gore here, right?


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^^ Not one reply made sense.

Gore is an idiot. Watch him join Osama since he couldn't cut it back home lol.


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^^ Not one reply made sense.


Well, if they didn't make sense to you because you didn't understand the perfectly clear arguments then you are just stupid, otherwise please respond to their posts with arguments why they were wrong instead of just pointing out that they were wrong. PLEASE!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew
Well, if they didn't make sense to you because you didn't understand the perfectly clear arguments then you are just stupid, otherwise please respond to their posts with arguments why they were wrong instead of just pointing out that they were wrong. PLEASE!


and if you can't even read the FIRST POST OF A THREAD then shut your fucking pie hole, mameluke. You just proved my point that you follow me from thread to thread. Obsesive fuck.

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I'm stunned almost to speechlessness. We held mass roundups of Arabs? When? Where? What exactly were the "unforgivable" conditions of which Gore speaks? And as far as the visas go, when exactly did Saudis have a right to enter the United States at whim without any consideration of security? Perhaps the former VP has forgotten, but most of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudis.


I guess i just pulled that out of the thick air

EDIT: I guess for someone who's as blind and ignorant as you people must connect the dots. WHERE WAS THERE A M A S S round-up of "Arabs" (not to mention that comment is retarded since they aren't all Arabs). Get'mo base doesn't count. And yes most of the hijackers were Saudis so you're saying it's "unfair" that we do backround checks or refuse visas? LMAO. Wow. The arrogance.


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St_Andrew
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Originally posted by Lepanto
and if you can't even read the FIRST POST OF A THREAD then shut your fucking pie hole


I did read the first post when it was first posted, and I didn't have anything to add so I did shut up! Your comments get annoying though when you insult others without anything to back it up with - ALL THE TIME.

I guess you are just stupid though since their posts didn't make any sense to you. I also want to appologize for being unrespectful towards your lack of ability to understand easy arguments, and I'm not gonna bother you anymore.

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mameluke. You just proved my point that you follow me from thread to thread. Obsesive fuck.


Okay.

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I guess i just pulled that out of the thick air

EDIT: I guess for someone who's as blind and ignorant as you people must connect the dots. WHERE WAS THERE A M A S S round-up of "Arabs" (not to mention that comment is retarded since they aren't all Arabs). Get'mo base doesn't count. And yes most of the hijackers were Saudis so you're saying it's "unfair" that we do backround checks or refuse visas? LMAO. Wow. The arrogance.


guantanamo base doesn't count, why? And what about all the other "ghost prisons" over the world? And as far as I know there was no one in here who was criticising the visa policies.

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