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Biatchzxz
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tracRemixing Old Rock Tracks Etc...

Hey i have an idea for tracks as far as remixing.. I am trying to just throw the old track into Lets say for example acid to set the tempo of the track using the beatmapper wizard. Now My question is this.. I am trying to set the tempo for any of these songs i want to remix ( Reproduce or whatever). What is the best way to get the tempo right like speeding up the track (pitch reserve). Acid can do it a little bit. But it always goes off beat after like a Bar or 2. I am having trouble with this with every track i try to redo. Where can i find good information regarding remixing and matching the tempo bpm. For these tracks. Now i am already waiting to get abused because of my question... AGAIN I AM Looking for INFORMATION and Help. NOT MAGICAL PROGRAMS AND SUCH... PLease take it easy on me.. I tried using the search button here and it comes up with either no threads or to many threads that are irrelevant. Any Help would be appreciated.

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richg101
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hey there!

its definately hell making a hand played rock track go to a 4;4 beat. i suggest taking samples of the track - 4 bars at a time. so you have the parts of the track you want all split up into 4 bar samples..(i say four bars cos there will be little bpm fluctuation in just 4 bars.) make the samples so they loop perfectly!

now if you import the first sample into your sequencer and turn the metronome on. copy and paste it about eight times. now play on the sequencer. adjust the tempo(bpm) until the the samples sound looped with no gaps or overlaps.. (and the metronome sounds right)

now once you have this speed you now know the bpm that this one sample works at. now timestretch the sample from the bpm your sequencer was running at and stretch it to the speed your remix will be.

do this with all your samples. and you will have the whole track set to a particular bpm.

remember that one sample will be a different bpm to the rest. as the band obviously fluctuate while playing. so you have do do the whole process for each sample.


hope this makes sense.

here is a rmx i did using this method. for the guitar, and vocals. everythin else is mine but the guitar/vocal samples had to be processed in the above way..

HERE!


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Biatchzxz
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Ok. So pretty much , Just use the Piece i want..And match it then.. What are you using to do all this. I am using Acid Pro. I dont know if you are familiar with this program or not. The song i have is in mp3 format. should i decode it into a wav. or leave it as mp3..

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No Left Turn
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i think the solution to your problem will be Ableton Live. i believe what you're trying to do is fully beatmap a rock track, which for the most part is very difficult to do using other DAW's because you only get one bpm/algorithm to beatmap the track. with Ableton Live you can set multiple/unlimited track markers so that you can potentially have every beat of the kickdrum on beat.

check out the demo and fiddle around with "warping", as they call it.

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im using cubase sl 2 - with the supplied sample editor.

apparently ableton will do this itsself but when i enquired at the shop he said it wouldnt do it to the degree good enough for something like that. he said that you really need a kick heavy track for it to work.

if you only need a small ammount of the track then i suggest you use my method. it works if you spend time on it.

work in wav format. but honestly... its worth getting the wav or cd rip at very high bitrate. the time you ll spend is probably worth making it properly with a decent wav

and set the sequencer so it automatically lines up the samples at the start of each four beats when doing what i suggested in my previous post..

rich


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MERiDiAN5i2
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Synapse Orion 6 and Native Instruments Kontact 2?

Might as well resample the track.. your going to have to if you want a halfway decent remix!

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krivi
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ableton can do it perfectly,it's just little anoying with slide moving till perfection...


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