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harriz
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Is Paul van dyk a influential Icon or a hypocrite ?

Raves are a gathering of 100 or more people dancing to loud repetavive electronic music and taking drugs. You can choose to attend & not take any drugs but you will be the minority. That still doesn't change the fact that the music was produced to result to
euphoric/psychedelic fealings while on drugs. Drugs + Music = Euphoria.

The promoters of these various events are eigher handling the traffic themselfs or
are directly linked to the people that supply the party with the ''goods''.
In undergroung clubs this is often done by the owners who use the club to launder the drug money they make by booking him.

He knows that when he makes this music .
His music will be heard in big rooms where various substances circulate.
He is not making music to save the world but to help people celebrate.
He should stop pretending.
He should come in terms with it. Face it. Accept it.

Instead, He is often trying to change the thirdviewers opinion in interviews. Electronic music is no longer releted to this ''creapy subculture'' with drugs & partys but is something intelectually higher that everybody should be part of!


Is he really trying to make a difference or is he motivated by fame and money when he captains the scene away from its origin?

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Maybe YOU should lay off the drugs. At least it would improve your spelling.


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RapidFire
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i disagree to agree to disagree.

agreed?

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Grrrrr
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From the snippits i've read here on TA and from reading interviews it's my opinion that it's just his way of handling the media. Sasha chooses not to comment, pvd chooses to say drugs are bad despite being a crackhead.

So in a nutshell yeah he's a hypocrite!!


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pvdAngel
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quote:
Originally posted by Grrrrr
From the snippits i've read here on TA and from reading interviews it's my opinion that it's just his way of handling the media. Sasha chooses not to comment, pvd chooses to say drugs are bad despite being a crackhead.

So in a nutshell yeah he's a hypocrite!!


there was an article from a few years back saying when pvd was forced about taking drugs, he admited that he took cocaine two or three times but that was all. it wasn't a big deal. since then he's influenced kids with the whole Pure PVD thing.

i see pvd as a positive influence in many things and i might even consider him as a role model despite if he did any of those things. what's important is what he's like now and that he's still portraying a positive attitude and outlook in music.

paul always says that he appreciates the little things in life and never takes things for granted thus i don't see him as a selfish person. he says that he always plays and makes the music he loves and if the crowd love it, then he's happy. i've never read anything where he's been arrogant or greedy or anything like that. i have heard about selfish and greedy things about tiesto though...

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Grrrrr
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If this exact thread was about tiesto, there would be another member called tiestoangel (or whatever) that would say exactly the same as you about Paul van Dyk.

Producers/DJs know that most of their interaction verbally with fans is through interviews so you can't always take what they say as gospel, they're always going to try and portray themselves in a good way. I'm sure members here (sure they may be lying but there have been more than 1) that have seen with their own eyes pvd taking drugs


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pvdAngel
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quote:
Originally posted by Grrrrr
If this exact thread was about tiesto, there would be another member called tiestoangel (or whatever) that would say exactly the same as you about Paul van Dyk.

Producers/DJs know that most of their interaction verbally with fans is through interviews so you can't always take what they say as gospel, they're always going to try and portray themselves in a good way. I'm sure members here (sure they may be lying but there have been more than 1) that have seen with their own eyes pvd taking drugs


i understand, it's just an opinion. i mean, i don't completely hate tiesto, i thinks some of his music rocks and is very talented in his own way. i also don't believe absolutely everything about Paul van Dyk and i don't think he's always perfect. i will choose to avoid rumours if i can.

no harsh feelings...?

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And this is why I love Sasha

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I dont care if he takes drugs, the only thing that matters is that his set gets me going... let him take drugs, eat crap and stuff I dont care, his problem


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i think people care way too much about what pvd says. i don't care what he says about drugs to the media or if he's a hypocrite because of it. frankly it'd be a good thing if he put out the public image of edm not being so absorbed in/attached to drugs.


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Who cares what a DJ does in their spare time.

Aslong as he plays the music I love and adore then I'll always have a smile on my face and a good time.

Isn't it all about the music??

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