I heard from some friends who are planning a the trip to Ibiza with me that there is a EU law that forbids foreigners to stay in the EU for more then 90 days in a 6 months period without a Visa.

does anyone know anything about this? hopefully it won't affect me, but it might and it will affect some of my friends.

any info would help..esp info on how to avoid getting caught!

thanks

that is correct Andrea.

You are only allowed to stay in any EU country for 90 days without a visa. I don't know how to get around it, but I can try to find you some of the links I have with the info on it.

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Originally posted by magikb that is correct Andrea. You are only allowed to stay in any EU country for 90 days without a visa. I don't know how to get around it, but I can try to find you some of the links I have with the info on it.

that would be awesome! if you don't leave after the 90 days..and they don't find you, can they tell when u fly out that you have been there longer then 90 days?

how would you get caught? what are the chances of getting caught?

your passport will get stamped going in and out of the country, so they will know when you have entered the country. Whether or not they will say anything to you leaving since you have stayed longer than 90 days, I don't know, but I don't know if I would want to risk that or not either.

Anyhow, link for visa's in spain..
http://www.learn4good.com/travel/es_visa.htm

and I do have info for Holland as well, but I don't know if that is in your plans with your friends or not. Let me know if you do need it later.

Good luck!


Edit: Just so that you know, I have actually gotten my Visa for the NL approved last year and it really isn't that hard to do and it was approved for 6 months where I was able to work as well. It took me about 3 months to get everything I needed and go to the Consulate General in Toronto. So if your friends and you start now, it can be done before summer!

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Originally posted by magikb your passport will get stamped going in and out of the country, so they will know when you have entered the country. Whether or not they will say anything to you leaving since you have stayed longer than 90 days, I don't know, but I don't know if I would want to risk that or not either. Anyhow, link for visa's in spain.. http://www.learn4good.com/travel/es_visa.htm and I do have info for Holland as well, but I don't know if that is in your plans with your friends or not. Let me know if you do need it later. Good luck! Edit: Just so that you know, I have actually gotten my Visa for the NL approved last year and it really isn't that hard to do and it was approved for 6 months where I was able to work as well. It took me about 3 months to get everything I needed and go to the Consulate General in Toronto. So if your friends and you start now, it can be done before summer!

what type of visa did you get? i'm getting my dutch citizenship, so if won't apply to me, but none of them are going to holland. just ibiza. they've found it difficult to get a vise. they were told they need a company there to sponser them, basically saying that they will be hired for the full time. no company will do that if they have more then enough legal, eager workers coming from the UK. and most places won't hire till you get there

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Originally posted by spitty I heard from some friends who are planning a the trip to Ibiza with me that there is a EU law that forbids foreigners to stay in the EU for more then 90 days in a 6 months period without a Visa. does anyone know anything about this? hopefully it won't affect me, but it might and it will affect some of my friends. any info would help..esp info on how to avoid getting caught! thanks

Go out of the EU (maybe UK) and come back again. After the exit stamp and re-entry, your stay gets 'reset'. Thus you have another 90 days.

You may be able to leave the country after overstaying, but it 'may' be a gamble coming back again (but I am sure there are ways around it - proper documentation / explanation). But plan ahead. Do not risk it while you are there. Nothing is worth jeopardizing your trip / vacation. Spoils the fun.

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Originally posted by 4-play Go out of the EU (maybe UK) and come back again. Your stay gets 'reset' then.

it does?? i've heard conflicting stories about that. if it does, then all our worries are over!

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Originally posted by spitty it does?? i've heard conflicting stories about that. if it does, then all our worries are over!

I always fly out of the EU to the UK (thus getting an exit stamp while leaving the EU). With this you have left the EU and you can come back to the EU and stay for another 90 days at a strech. You may want to check the formalities / procedures when travelling by other means of transport.

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Originally posted by spitty what type of visa did you get?

I got a working holiday visa. It was for the majority purpose of travelling within Holland but it also allowed me to work if I had too. You just have to check in with the police within 3 days of entering the country to get all your documentation and such.

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Originally posted by 4-play With this you have left the EU and you can come back to the EU and stay for another 90 days at a strech.

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Originally posted by spitty there is a EU law that forbids foreigners to stay in the EU for more then 90 days in a 6 months period without a Visa.

^^ So if what YOU say is true Fuad, then what the law really is is "more than 90 CONSECUATIVE DAYS in a 6 month period without a Visa." ???

Bc if not, if you leave hten come back, you're still within tthat6 month period and over 90 days in total!

Jem

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar ^^ So if what YOU say is true Fuad, then what the law really is is "more than 90 CONSECUATIVE DAYS in a 6 month period without a Visa." ??? Bc if not, if you leave hten come back, you're still within tthat6 month period and over 90 days in total! Jem

Taken from the Dutch Consulate of Toronto website:
http://www.mfa.nl/tor/general_consu...n_you_require_a

*The below guidelines are for a visit. There are different procedures for a work permit / visa. I would suggest calling any of the Schengen state consulates for more accurate / precise info.

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I want to stay in the Netherlands for longer than three months. What do I require? To stay for an uninterrupted period of more than three months, you will require a special visa called an authorisation for temporary stay (MVV). Such a visa is required by the nationals of all countries except the EU member states and a few other countries. Countries whose nationals do not need an MVV for a stay of over three months Australia Austria Belgium Canada Denmark Finland France Germany Greece Iceland Ireland Italy Japan Liechtenstein Luxembourg Monaco New Zealand Norway Portugal Spain Sweden Switzerland United Kingdom United States

if you are there past 3 months, just go across to morroco for a few days and come back. You should have your stay reset and you get to see a really cool part of the world that is not very far away from spain (just across the channel)

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

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