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Forbes
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Phase Problems

If i take a track that i've made and open the phase analysis window in adobe audition it spikes all over the place. Where as if i take a professional track and do the same it shows a constant straight line going diagonally left to right.

Don't know if i've explained it very well but does anyone know why my track does this?

Is it just bad EQing?


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Old Post Mar-30-2006 13:53  Scotland
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Forbes
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try this sample as it happens with every track i make

http://www.krisforbes.co.uk/punkd.mp3

Also every professional track i look at with the phase analysis tool they look the same


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Diginerd
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Straight 45 degree angle on a phase scope whilst a track is playing means it's mono.. There is no phase difference between L & R in that case. The line is 45 Degress because y = x.

You must have something messed up somwhere..

Yours is stereo hence the bouncy bouncy

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Diginerd
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Oh, and lots of delay (as found in your track)can produce some nasty phase effects. Try panning your effects in a little.

As a comment on your track, try bringing down your faders some, and if you have any compressors or limiters on the master ouput take them off. It's clipping and distorying everywhere, leading to very very poor sound..

Theat's certainly not helping you. It's hard to offer more advice until the whole mix isn't saturating past the point of distortion.

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Forbes
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hmmm thats got me thinking coz i've bought digital tracks for djing that i'd thought were stereo and they are 45 degree lines as well so they must be dual mono then to compensate


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Forbes
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quote:
Originally posted by Diginerd
Oh, and lots of delay (as found in your track)can produce some nasty phase effects. Try panning your effects in a little.

As a comment on your track, try bringing down your faders some, and if you have any compressors or limiters on the master ouput take them off. It's clipping and distorying everywhere, leading to very very poor sound..

Theat's certainly not helping you. It's hard to offer more advice until the whole mix isn't saturating past the point of distortion.


Thanks for the advice

I had been messing around with L2 limiter in waves prior to putting it online. I should really buy some good speakers just using my headphones just now.


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quote:
Originally posted by Forbes
Thanks for the advice

I had been messing around with L2 limiter in waves prior to putting it online. I should really buy some good speakers just using my headphones just now.



quick tip for L2... it should only be attenuating by a few dB, cutting just the highest peaks while leaving the rest of the signal untouched, only a bit louder. be very careful when applying mastering effects such as compression and limiting, they can easily wreck a track. Also, check out the eq-ing of the bass region... you've got a big peak at 129 Hz and a hole in the spectrum at 105 Hz. Cool track otherwise!!


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Forbes
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quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
what u use for produciton.


Currently making everything in fruity loops then exporting each track as wav and using cubase sx3 to mixdown (trying to get used to using it). Got vanguard, z3ta+ and fm7, and got some samples that i've made and a sample cd i got from some mag years ago, oh and waves gold edition.

quote:
Originally posted by psyklolink
quick tip for L2... it should only be attenuating by a few dB, cutting just the highest peaks while leaving the rest of the signal untouched, only a bit louder. be very careful when applying mastering effects such as compression and limiting, they can easily wreck a track. Also, check out the eq-ing of the bass region... you've got a big peak at 129 Hz and a hole in the spectrum at 105 Hz. Cool track otherwise!!


Thanks for the advice. Out of couriosity what spectrum analysis program are you using?


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Originally posted by dj_palm
that baseline is so cool


thanks, its made with vanguard


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