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British music producer Adam Kidron says that when he came up with the idea of a Spanish-language version of the U.S. national anthem, he saw it as an ode to the millions of immigrants seeking a better life.

But in the week since Kidron announced the song — which features artists such as Wyclef Jean, hip-hop star Pitbull and Puerto Rican singers Carlos Ponce and Olga Tanon — it has been the target of a fierce backlash.

Some Internet bloggers and others are infuriated by the thought of "The Star-Spangled Banner" sung in a language other than English.

"Would the French accept people singing the La Marseillaise in English as a sign of French patriotism? Of course not," said Mark Krikorian, head of the Washington-based Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that supports tighter immigration controls.

The initial version of "Nuestro Himno," or "Our Anthem," comes out Friday and uses lyrics based closely on the English-language original, said Kidron, who heads the record label Urban Box Office.

Pro-immigration protests are planned around the country for Monday, and the record label is urging Hispanic radio stations nationwide to play the cut at 7 p.m. EDT Friday in a sign of solidarity.

A remix to be released in June will contain several lines in English that condemn U.S. immigration laws. Among them: "These kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws ... let's not start a war with all these hard workers, they can't help where they were born."

Bryanna Bevens of Hanford, Calif., who writes for the immigration-focused Web magazine Vdare.com, said the remix particularly upset her.

"It's very whiny. If you want to say all those things, by all means, put them on your poster board, but don't put them on the national anthem," she said.

Kidron, a U.S. resident for 16 years, maintains the changes are fitting. After all, he notes, American immigrants borrowed the melody of the "Star Spangled Banner" from an English drinking song.

"There's no attempt to usurp anything. The intent is to communicate," Kidron said. "I wanted to show my thanks to these people who buy my records and listen to the music we release and do the jobs I don't want to do."

Kidron said the song also will be featured on the album "Somos Americanos," which will sell for $10, with $1 going to the National Capital Immigration Coalition, a Washington group.

Pitbull, whose real name is Armando Perez, said this country was built by immigrants, and "the meaning of the American dream is in that record: struggle, freedom, opportunity, everything they are trying to shut down on us."

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fuck them ********

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Let the brown people bashing commence.


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patriotism is the true opiate of the people.

i really cant see a problem. if people want to sing a song, they should be able to sing it in any language they choose.


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At first I didn't see anything stupid with them singing the 'Star Spangled Banner' in another language because I took this as a mere translation to the English version, which could have been translated in any other language for that matter. But then I read this line:
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"A remix to be released in June will contain several lines in English that condemn U.S. immigration laws. Among them: "These kids have no parents, cause all of these mean laws ... let's not start a war with all these hard workers, they can't help where they were born."

What I thought was an innocent translation turned out to be an immigration agenda. Mind you that I'm Hispanic, but I still don't agree with this song because they have tampered with the original lyrics to to protest a cause unrelated to the 'Star Spangled Banner'.

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Godamnit! "Pro-immigration" my ass! When they say that they mean Pro-Illegal Immigration which by definition IS RETARDED!

I can't take these immigration morons anymore, I need to go lay down..

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Godamnit! "Pro-immigration" my ass! When they say that they mean Pro-Illegal Immigration which by definition IS RETARDED!

I can't take these immigration morons anymore, I need to go lay down..


+1 I dont think anyone is anti immigration they are anti ILLEGAL immigration whether thats sneaking in or overstaying your visa.

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From a personal stand point I think it's completely ridiculous to have clown rappers like Pitbull remixing any national anthem. If you are going to remix or reconstruct a national anthem, at least do it with musically talented artists, not clown monkeys.

From a general stand point, ignoring who is actually remixing the anthem, it is fine to take something so sensitive like this and add your own twist to it, but to modify the lyrics is just asking for trouble.


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this is much ado about nothing considering that this version is not used in any official government acts. the government is not compelling anyone who doesn't want to sing it to do so. this a matter of popular culture and expression in the private sphere and nothing more.

now, does someone want to argue that americans don't have the freedom to alter the lyrics for their own use or for their own enjoyment? well?


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this is much ado about nothing considering that this version is not used in any official government acts. the government is not compelling anyone who doesn't want to sing it to do so. this a matter of popular culture and expression in the private sphere and nothing more.

now, does someone want to argue that americans don't have the freedom to alter the lyrics for their own use or for their own enjoyment? well?


not americans if they are illegal

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Hispanics are against the translation in the masses. Its the few idiots and the English Producer who want to abuse of the current situation, so you people dont jump blaming all the inmigrants and the movement, because THEY DONT support the translation of the star spangle banner in any way.. In fact, they want to boycott and there's a massive movement to stop the release of it. This coming from the Hispanic/inmigrant community.


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anyone heard the song Star Shpongled Banner?

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