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xstalkrx
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Master Tempo on CDJ's

I read that the master tempo maintains pitch of the track even when you change the speed. I thought pitch = speed. Please explain this to me in noob terms. I'm not understanding its function or why its useful.

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anth_on_e
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Location: Toronto

speed = tempo (how fast the song is playing)

when you move the pitch slider, the way the voices/instruments sound also changes. If you move the pitch up to 50% on a hip hop track, it will sound like chipmunks talking. Keeping the master tempo on keeps the voices normal,but it still speeds up the track.


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Aquarian
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and completely screws up the sound quality in the process

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Fusic
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Location: Los Angeles, CA

quote:
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and completely screws up the sound quality in the process

+1, I never use the master tempo on my cdj-1000mk2's. even though their the best master tempo on the market.


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Ryan0751
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Location: Boston, MA

Well that's not totally fair... the mater tempo does cause artifacting, but only if you try to speed a track up more than you probably should anyway...

Realistically you'll only be pitching up or down 5% for most trance/house. In that range master tempo doesn't affect the sound quality much (if at all, I certainly can't tell).

I don't really use it much... though it can be useful for keeping things in key when harmonic mixing.

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+1, I never use the master tempo on my cdj-1000mk2's. even though their the best master tempo on the market.

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Aquarian
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I wish there was a way to bend half the % in master tempo and the other half by normal pitching (or is that too weird?)

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Ryan0751
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Yes that's weird

For Ableton peeps, the tempo control in ableton is essentially ALWAYS master tempo. They have a separate pitch control for keying up and down.

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I wish there was a way to bend half the % in master tempo and the other half by normal pitching (or is that too weird?)

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Tegu
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: SRQ, FL

thanks for the heads up guys. i had the same question. just ordered my cdjs from agi. should get here next week!


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miamitranceman
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thanks for the heads up guys. i had the same question. just ordered my cdjs from agi. should get here next week!



What did you get and how much did they quote you? Just curious cuz my 800s are on the way from them too!


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miamitranceman
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quote:
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and completely screws up the sound quality in the process



For that try using virtual dj...sounds like shit even pitched (tempoed) up a little.


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esselfortium
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: Wilmington, NC

Traktor's highest-quality timestretching algorithm sounds pretty good to me, even if you stretch it quite a bit. Can anyone here show me the error of my ways, tell me it sounds horrible, etc? ;p

Mike


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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
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I never use it beyond +/- 3.5% as I can usually hear a slight difference. Sometimes it also messes with the kick above that % and makes mixing a little harder...


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