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VERTiG0
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Registered: Dec 2003
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RIAA sues XM Inc. over the new Pioneer Inno [mind-boggling inside]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060517..._nm/media_xm_dc

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The recording industry on Tuesday sued XM Satellite Radio Holdings Inc., alleging its Inno device that can store music infringes on copyrights and transforms a passive radio experience into the equivalent of a digital download service like iTunes.

The suit accuses XM Satellite of "massive wholesale infringement," and seeks $150,000 in damages for every song copied by XM customers using the devices, which went on sale earlier this month. XM, with more than 6.5 million subscribers, said it plays 160,000 different songs every month.


Words can't describe this. They're suing XM because a portable device can store songs? It's made by goddamn Pioneer, not XM! The RIAA is so good at one-upping themselves.

I don't see how this is seen as 'stealing' by the RIAA - the Inno cannot transfer songs off of itself to a computer, and the end-user has already paid to listen to the damn song by having a subscription to XM in the first place. If the user wants to listen to a particular song that they enjoyed 5 times in a row, how is this different than hearing the song 5 times in an hour on the XM satellite broadcast itself? And why aren't they suing Sirius for the Starmate Replay, which does the exact same damn thing?

This had better not hamper sales of this thing, it's what I wanted to replace my iPod with.

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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Haha...good old RIAA.


What are the specs on that thign?


BTW - how will the sales of that product be effected since the RIAA has no jurisdiction here.

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cap
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Fuck RIAA, what a cheap shot.

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RIAA = we're so fucking lazy, that we didn't bother to keep up with technology...so we're going to kick back and sue everyone who has had the foresight to change with the times.

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RIAA is a stupid agency. They are suing people that never downloaded music and which they do not have a computer.

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XM licences the music for broadcast, not download - so damn right they better be sued - they are breaking the terms of their license.


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VERTiG0
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XM licences the music for broadcast, not download - so damn right they better be sued - they are breaking the terms of their license.


How is XM breaking the license? XM isn't doing anything but broadcasting the signal. It is a Pioneer product that is causing all this hubbub.

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rabbitjoker
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How is XM breaking the license? XM isn't doing anything but broadcasting the signal. It is a Pioneer product that is causing all this hubbub.


Pio had to get some sort of permission/encryption key from XM in able to make their device work.

Pio doesn't have any license obligations to the content producers.


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Re: RIAA sues XM Inc. over the new Pioneer Inno [mind-boggling inside]

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Originally posted by VERTiG0
This had better not hamper sales of this thing, it's what I wanted to replace my iPod with.


And herein lies the problem. Why buy mp3's for your Ipod when you can store streamed music for free using this device?

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Jayx1
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Whats next? suing everyone who owns a radio with a tape deck?

Give me a break.


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Fir3start3r
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
Whats next? suing everyone who owns a radio with a tape deck?

Give me a break.


Good point...

What's the diff?


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