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bogartgreens
has boogie fever.



Registered: Nov 2005
Location: roundabout
Angry The Beginning of the End...

of internet freedom...at least, that's what some big telecommunication corporations are attempting to do...as if they dont charge enough for broadband and service in general here's the article:

The End of Internet Freedom -

Unless you have not heard, Verizon, AT&T, Bell South and other telecommunications giants are lobbying Congress to establish a legal basis for charging website owners for traffic with the help of two-tier Internet.

If telecommunication lobby succeeds it would mean the end of online freedom and higher prices for online goods and services for all of us.

So what do telecommunication companies want? Quite naturally, greedy corporations want more profit and they are keen to find a way to stuff their pockets even tighter.

Hold on there, telecom companies already charging us - the consumers - for broadband and cable access, right? But now they want to charge content providers too based on the amount of traffic their sites generate. Nonsense! Although telcos argue that they want to curb proliferation of online video and other types of data-hungry streaming that allegedly taxes their networks they think imposing traffic fees on content providers would be a fair solution.

But content providers already pay traffic charges to their hosting providers! So what telcos want is to charge content providers twice! Not only that, the whole premise of two-tier Internet puts high-dollar companies ahead of cash-strapped runner-ups effectively killing start ups and low-key businesses. With two tier you've got to cash-out to cable providers if you want to ride 'high-bandwidth' channel and make sure that your pages are served fast and clear, whereas if you are a cash-strapped nobody like most of us you would be stuck to an auxiliary channel choked with spam, porn and god knows what else.

But most troubling of all is that the introduction of two-tier Internet creates a unique opportunity for censorship and interferes with the free speech right so much treasured by online community. Indeed what a clever move! The bill does not prohibit free speech not it interferes with the free speech directly. Sure, you can say all you want and blog all you want about anything you want. But we just won't serve your pages!.. Unless you pay a hefty price... and even then we may choose not to serve them.

The two-tier Internet bill must be stopped. Activist groups already pressure US senate to abandon the bill. And even an opposing Net Neutrality bill was proposed by democratic senators. Net Neutrality bill requires all online content to be served without discrimination, which is a nice idea in theory, yet it is vigorously opposed by equipment manufacturers and ISPs due to fears of potential liability (arising presumably from bugs, outages and custom content filters).

While Net Neutrality bill sounds like overkill, two-tier Internet bill is ought to be stopped too. If it passes freedom of speech would be seriously hampered, startups and small businesses will take a hit and we will pay higher prices for online advertising as well as goods and services delivered or sold over Internet. Do we really want that? I think not.


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Unique2701
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blahblah.

No wonder no one replies. Its too much reading.


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RJT
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Never going to happen.


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Groundhog Boy
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
blahblah.

No wonder no one replies. Its too much reading.

And no wonder shit like this is allowed to happen, as learning about it requires an attention span of more than 3 seconds, which seems to be over the threshold most Americans seem to have.

Basically, if you can't get it out in the 5 second sound byte, you might as well keep your mouth shut. No wonder the intellectuals are so fed up with politics and society these days, because it's impossible to educate the public in the 5 second time allotment.


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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
And no wonder shit like this is allowed to happen, as learning about it requires an attention span of more than 3 seconds, which seems to be over the threshold most Americans seem to have.

Basically, if you can't get it out in the 5 second sound byte, you might as well keep your mouth shut. No wonder the intellectuals are so fed up with politics and society these days, because it's impossible to educate the public in the 5 second time allotment.





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idoru
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I thought that this bill was already denied? Maybe it was another one I'm thinking of, but I'm pretty sure it was this.

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Unique2701
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Location: Amsterdam

quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
And no wonder shit like this is allowed to happen, as learning about it requires an attention span of more than 3 seconds, which seems to be over the threshold most Americans seem to have.


Stuff like this is being post al the time in the c0r. I've read some similiar stuff in the past that was posted and concluded it was just not worthwile going through the whole reading.

quote:
No wonder the intellectuals are so fed up with politics and society these days, because it's impossible to educate the public in the 5 second time allotment.


Goodmorning to you. There is another subforum for that. It's called Political Discussion / Debate

quote:

Basically, if you can't get it out in the 5 second sound byte, you might as well keep your mouth shut.


The c0r is about saying useless stuff. If you haven't figured that out by now then you're not that intellectual either.


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Salegon
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This is the beginning of the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O0v32wpqhQ


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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Unique2701
Stuff like this is being post al the time in the c0r. I've read some similiar stuff in the past that was posted and concluded it was just not worthwile going through the whole reading.



Goodmorning to you. There is another subforum for that. It's called Political Discussion / Debate



The c0r is about saying useless stuff. If you haven't figured that out by now then you're not that intellectual either.

I know there's a PDD forum. I post in there more often than here. It also has only about 20-30 regular users, so not many get to see (or at least participate) in the content there.

The reason why it was posted and is relevant to the COR is because increased costs for content providers would increase Swamper's costs, thus ending or severely slowing down your center for "useless stuff."


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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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generic
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: over there

imo its just a matter of time before the internet becomes a restricted and largely useless pile of crap.
its already much more controlled than it was when i first got it and i think it'll only get worse

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Ivand
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quote:
Originally posted by idoru
I thought that this bill was already denied? Maybe it was another one I'm thinking of, but I'm pretty sure it was this.



Indeed


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Psy-T
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quote:
Originally posted by generic
imo its just a matter of time before the internet becomes a restricted and largely useless pile of crap.
its already much more controlled than it was when i first got it and i think it'll only get worse


can you give some examples of how the internet is more restricted now than it was say... 5 or 10 years ago?


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