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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada
Booze ban sparks resignation of entire newfoundland fire dept.

I wish more people stood up for their rights like these guys....

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The entire volunteer fire department in a Newfoundland town has resigned, following a new policy that forbids drinking alcohol in the local fire hall.

The Point Leamington fire hall had doubled for years as an unofficial bar for the community of about 700 on the island's northeast coast.


Fire Chief Fraser Stuckless said he complied with a town order this spring to stop selling booze to the public.


However, he said the force of a dozen firefighters should still be allowed to enjoy a drink on special occasions.


"The other fire departments, they do have alcohol .... The alcohol is there for personal use for the firemen and, as far as I'm concerned, we should be allowed to do the same," said Stuckless.


However, Mayor Robert Elliott says past problems at the hall prompted the town council to take a firm position.


"The fire department has been told [on] many, many occasions, you can't sell beer. On many occasions they've never listened," Elliott said.


"This is the only solution we saw. Take it out, [and] then you can't sell what's not there."


Ruth Rideout said she and other residents are concerned about the possible loss of fire services, and why council is being so adamant on the issue.


"Is it that someone turned up drunk to a fire? We don't know. Or is it just that council wants to clean house? We don't know that either," she said.


"But I think as a town we're entitled to some answers."


The withdrawal will not leave Point Leamington altogether in the lurch. While the force will no longer do routine work from the fire hall, Stuckless said members will respond to emergency calls.


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Misanthrope
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Registered: Feb 2005
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I'm lost.

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Jayx1
Prime Minister of TOTA



Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

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I'm lost.


the firehall acted as a bar. They wanted to close the bar so now firefighters cant even have their own booze in the fire hall. As a result they all quit in protest.


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Originally posted by jester
Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Old Post Jun-14-2006 15:53  Canada
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Misanthrope
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Registered: Feb 2005
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I should have been more clear.

Why would there be a bar in a firehall to begin with?
Let's say there was concern for the issue of firefighters getting drunk or whatever, why wait so long to finally ban the thing?

It doesn't make sense to me.

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Stingray
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Registered: Feb 2005
Location: The M-dot

Wow!

Anyone got a match?

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Cosmic Fur
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Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Mississauga, Canada

Why are firefighters so concerned with being able to drink on the job?


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Misanthrope
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Registered: Feb 2005
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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Why are firefighters so concerned with being able to drink on the job?


THERE WE GO! someone who always word things better.

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Platipus
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so much for them having a nice dry sherry before bed and a handy under the table revenue stream!

not to mention they are volunteer firefighters, no money, the firehall is like their home.

I'd rather have drunk firefighters trying to put out my house fire, than no firefighters at all.


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FunkyCrew
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Why are firefighters so concerned with being able to drink on the job?


yes my thoughts precisely

ridiculous


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

its newfoundland... its a small town..

they arent so anal about rules and regulations like we are. Or at least they werent. And things were working fine until some dogooder decided to impose their morals on others.

Sounds familiar to me...


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

Last edited by Jayx1 on Jun-14-2006 at 17:09

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FunkyCrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
its newfoundland... its a small town..

they arent so anal about rules and regulations like we are. Or at least they werent. And things were working fine until some dogooder decided to impose their morals on others.

Sounds familiar to me...


guys what are you talking about??

selling booze at a work place?!

who cares if it's a small town! lives of people in a small town are no less important then of people in a big town!!

so instead of sober firefighters serving their duty, they had a bunch of drunkards running around?! and now they are pissed off? well fuck them then!


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Jayx1
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: The Socialist People's Republic Of Canada

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guys what are you talking about??

selling booze at a work place?!

who cares if it's a small town! lives of people in a small town are no less important then of people in a big town!!

so instead of sober firefighters serving their duty, they had a bunch of drunkards running around?! and now they are pissed off? well fuck them then!


they want to know what the reasoning is. The impression that i got is that everything worked fine. i dont think firefighters were getting hammered on the job.

Life isnt always so black and white. If the firehall served as a community meeting place and that was part of their culture that worked fine for a town of 700, whats the problem?

So 1 idiot gets into power and decides the fate of the whole town?

Reminds me of molson. In the 80s they used to have beer at board meetings. They let employees drink on the job. It was part of the company culture. Nothing bad EVER happened yet they banned all this activity in the 90s. Not based on ANY incident what so ever but because something MIGHT happen someday.

Give me a break!


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Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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